Re: What to do with extra Pins and Patches
Richard L. Axtman (axtman@CASTLE.DRC.COM)
Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:58:55 -0400
In a SCOUTS-L discussion message sent by;
Ben G Privet <bprivet@JUNO.COM> of Cambridge, MA
Sun, 6 Oct 1996 09:41:41 EDT
Subject of: Re: What to do with extra Pins and Patches
Ben wrote: I have never run across a Boy Scout who was
willing to wear one of those (red Patch) vests.
They seem to consider it "a Cub Scout thing."
There were also a few patch blankets, but not
a single "Red Award Vest"! I wonder if anyone
else has noticed this? Is this the general
situation when it comes to Boy Scouts and
As for being a "Cub Scout Thing," maybe it is because Cub Scout
leaders promote it, they are fresh and looking for ideas to
improve their Pack's Program. Or maybe by the time many adults
get to the Boy Scout level of Scouting, they forget all about
promoting things and take a back seat while the boys run their
own program using the patrol method and developing their own
leadership skills, or the adults may be thinking, "I've been
there, done that, don't need to do it again."
Have a look at page "BS 8" in the 1996 Official BSA Catalog,
which a section title of "BOY SCOUT - UNIFORMS & ACCESSORIES"
it shows the "Patch Vest" as item "5" catalog #T537 (sizes for
youth) and item T539 (sizes for Adults). It shows it as a
Uniform Accessory in Boy Scout youth and adult sizes. Use a
catalog to point this out to Scouts and leaders when you talk
about the red "Patch Vest."
Maybe the reason we do not see the red Patch Vest more often
is because Adult Leaders do not promote the wearing of it
by putting one on themselves. I'm sure if all the leaders
in a Boy Scout Troop or Cub Scout Pack bought a vest or made
their own, that all of a sudden a lot of boys would want to
wear one too. It would catch on, when the boys and adults see
all the great patches that have earned over the years on display
It is true that you see many adults wearing the red
Jac-Shirt, BSA Catalog #T553 and #T554, but not many youth.
Why you might ask, because the red Jac-Shirt cost $64.40 for
a youth size and $74.75 to $78.75 depending on an Adults size.
I think this makes it expensive for some members to purchase,
when many of them have a hard time affording a complete
basic uniform. Just wait until the 1997 catalog, I bet the
prices will be even higher. Historically they did increase
from the 1995 to 1996 catalog.
May I therefore suggest, that more adults should start
considering the promotion and wearing the red "Patch Vest."
It is far more affordable ($10.95 to $13.95). It cost less
than a Jac-Shirt or a red patch blanket. You can even make
your own, to look exactly like the one sold by BSA for a
fraction of the cost, if you shop around for cloth or cut
up a red blanket you can make several of them. The red Patch
Vest could even be worn over a red Jac-Shirt if you own one.
Its all up to you and your leaders, what you want to promote.
You may want to stop a minute and think about the contents
of your Scout's wallets and of ways you can help them overcome
their lack of finances.
I think appearance is very important it helps build, character,
moral, Pack/Troop spirit and increases membership and participation
in Scouting. Remember we lead by EXAMPLE and by helping to
improve the program the boys and the adults participate in.
This is just my two cents worth.
Best In Scouting,
Cubmaster, Pack 6
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City