Re: Senior Patrol
Kirk Barley (kbarley@EROLS.COM)
Sat, 18 May 1996 13:12:24 -0400
I took over a Troop just as you described. I disbanded the "venture"
patrol for the same reasons.
It seemed to me that the requirements set up for venture membership were
as much a problem as anything. I did away with any requirements for
venture activities other than Scoutmaster permission. This allowed me
to motivate new 13 and 14 year old boys who joined to be with their
friends. It also helped me keep 12 year old Eagles from White Water
Rafting on the Gauley (class V).
I actively worked a venture program for my older boys, but without a
dedicated ASM to drive the program it was hard for me to get more than a
quarterly activity. I found that with venture, it is almost better to
do impromptu activities (Hey, lets go canoeing this weekend!) than to
schedule them. High Schoolers are just too busy. You avoid the feeling
of failure when you don't get a big turn-out for a short notice event.
My venture activities were often tied to troop activities, scouting a
river for example. We had a successful skiing trip with the Girl Scout
Seniors. And, of course, we did stock high adventure.
I expected boys to work in the troop, but didn't make it a precondition
for venture participation. I got a lot of leadership back in the troop
after selling a successful venture trip.
Why do you need the boys to teach skills? I'm not against it, but you
have to have a program that is relevant to each boy and age group or
you'll lose them. That's why (hope I'm not being obvious) Woods Wisdom
emphasises skill level programs. My boys taught, but as part of a
program that they planned.
MCB Quantico, VA
Robert Sharek wrote:
> Hello, everyone!
> I hope this isn't a rehash of an old thread, but here goes.
> How do you troops out there handle the "senior" scouts? We had a senior
> patrol made up of 14 year old (and older) and had Life rank. We had hoped
> that they would be involved in the teaching of skills to the younger boys
> but they evolved into a bunch of prima donnas. Tonite, we disbanded this
> patrol and integrated them into the other patrols.
> We dont want to take away from them the fact that they got this far in
> rank. But we need them to use the skills they learned and pass it on.
> How does everyone else handle this and what can we do to keep the older
> boys excited (other than OA and that sort of stuff)?
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City