Re: Re: Troopmaster
Ken Kerns Sr. (kerns@LI.NET)
Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:41:22 -0500
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I am currently using Troopmaster for Windows, I was an avid user of the =
Dos version until I switched to Win 95. It just didn't likr the dos =
version. The transfer of data from the dos version to windows was ok.=20
So far the only problems I've encounted are the feild sizes for data =
entry. The spaces shown are not the allowable data input size. ie street =
and city names might have to be shortened to fit into the real field.
Also it is very inportant to read the manual first and under stand how =
the data is inputed so as to make sure you are giving credit where it =
deserves. The program will not let a scout advance if is internal =
calendar doesn't show the proper tenure was complted. It will also not =
let you place merit badges where they don't belong, ie. eagle reg. vs =
extra's. The reports are great, and it makes the tracking job so much =
You did ask about moving data disks from one computer to another. This =
program requires that the data be stored on your hard drive and backed =
up on a floppy. One have to make one computer the master where all the =
information is entered. If you then want to carry a disk to another =
computer to only use it data, just use your backup compy. the proceedure =
is in the manual. BUT don't change any data on the second computer and =
try to bring it back to the first it just won't work right as the backup =
dates will get all screwed up.=20
I hope this helps alittle. I have been using there program since =
Troopmaster came out probably 6-8 yrs ago, and haven't regretted yet.
Ken Kerns Sr
T3 - Smithtown,N.Y., celebrating it's 86yr anniversary=20
Chartered in 1911 and haven't missed a year yet.
From: Ned Jacklin[SMTP:LASNJ@CCMAIL.CECO.COM]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 1996 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Troopmaster
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Subject: Re: Troopmaster
Author: SCOUTS-L - Youth Groups Discussion List
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Date: 10/3/96 10:37
Our Troop is considering Purchasing Troopmaster for Windows. We =
the demo over the net and played with it for a while. Some questions =
1) The Ads talk about file sharing between the DOS and Win versions. How
does this work if two leaders using seperate machines are doing data =
Is there a way to combine the two files or do you have be careful not to
work in the same file group and trade copies of eachothers work?
Whether you use DOS or Windows, you always have to be careful as to who =
the "official" copy. If two different people are making updates, I know =
no way to merge these separate sets of files.
2) We have near 30 active scouts many of whom have star and above ranks =
an award winning number or merit badges. What should we be aware of =
we get started with all the data entry?
Be prepared to spend some time! It is painstaking at first, but well =
it once you're caught up. The program wants MM/DD/YY everywhere, but a =
of your records are likely to have only MM/YY. I've just used the first =
the month in these cases. Get the merit badges all in chronological =
first, then start entering them. Otherwise, if you forget one you'll =
a Life merit badge with a date prior to a Star merit badge (this WILL
happen in the case of Eagle vs non-Eagle). Then you have to start at =
beginning again to get them in chronological order.
Enter your leadership positions one at a time. The program will let you
enter them all in Leadership History, but as the manual will tell you, =
won't calculate the number of days of service when done in this fashion.
You have to enter them one at a time under "Scout Info\Edit/Review =
in the Lead Position tab for the program to calculate the dates.
Be ready for some discrepancies to show up. There may have been an =
of a few days a few years ago when someone was manually counting 4 or 6
months service in a leadership position or in a rank.
3) Can the data stored in the data file (they look simple enough) be
exported into our existing excel program files? or better yet can we =
the data we have in our excel program into troopmaster?
I've never done any exporting or importing. The manual gives all the =
structures for exporting purposes. You might be able to use Access to =
the data from Excel into the TroopMaster files. I suspect this would =
as much time and be at least as tedious as just manually pounding
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City