Re: Membership lists
Jim Miller Sr. (jjmsr@LSFCU.ORG)
Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:04:00 +0000
Many councils are now engaged in "planned giving" programs.
These programs enable the donor to make a contribution to
the endowment of their council for the future support of the
Scouting program through charitable trusts, annuities, etc.
Planning your gift can give you tax benefits, as well as giving
scouting future support.
Most councils cannot afford to have "planned giving professionals"
on staff so some have recruited "volunteers" in these fields to approach
scouters on behalf of the council. These volunteers shouldn't IMHO be
charging you for a basic consultation, but may in the long run do
further business with you for which they might be compensated in
It sounds to me like the individual who contacted you "volunteered"
and may or may not be charging you for a service. If he/she is
charging, I would suggest you contact your local council and tell
them about it - they may not know. As far as I know, councils are
not selling lists.
Meanwhile, don't let this odd approach turn you off totally on
planned giving. You or your family can benefit from some of the
techniques employed. If the consultation is free, take advantage
of it and listen with an open mind. Both you and scouting could
Hope this helps
From: Steve Eisenberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 1996 3:18 PM
To: Jim Miller Sr.; Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: Membership lists
This morning, I received a "cold-call" from a financial planning service who
said that they were from the BSA. The agent asked if I had received
information for a seminar that they were planning. I don't think it had
anything to do with supplemental Cub Scout Leader training <grin>.
My questions to the group are:
1) Is BSA or local council selling our names to commercial concerns?
2) Are these people using the good name of the BSA to promote themselves for
3) Where did they get my name (ie. how did they know that I'm a Scouter)?
4) How does long term financial planning fit in with the Cub Scout program?
5) Am I getting something of value for the cost of the seminar (at least I
know where the popcorn money goes <G>).
6) If BSA or local council did release my name to this company, a) couldn't
they find a better way to raise a few dollars than selling their rosters? b)
have they fully investigated any company that they are sending our names to?
& c) shouldn't they be more concerned with the youth program than my
Note: I have not yet checked with council concerning this matter.
Cubmaster, Pack 373
James J. Miller, Sr. <JJMSR@lsfcu.org>
President, Liberty Savings Federal Credit Union
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City