Re: Curiosity between GSUSA and BSA
JASON CRUSE (jcruse@DU.EDU)
Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:47:31 -0600
I like the idea that perhaps this topic of abuse needs to be clarified
before we go on, but I'm not one to start this off, since by the nature
of my question, I haven't been around it.
I didn't mean to infer (if it came across this way) that the abuse
troubles were within scout units themselves. Actually, unfortunately, I
am more familiar with this sort of abuse, but that's not the point of my
Let me give a couple of examples that were cited in the meeting my wife
attended. First, a mother dropped her daughter off for scouts and didn't
show up again until almost 11 pm--completely drunk. The scout leader was
about to call the police. The mother's response was "I completely
forgot." Next, parents made their daughter walk a great distance to get
to meetings and to return home. The scout leader, as winter and cold
weather and dark evenings approached, told the parents they needed to
come pick up their daughter. They often waited until nearly 10 pm to do
this, apparently, in the leader's opinion, to test the leader and see if
she would bring their daughter home for them. Other stories of more
blatant abuse were also passed around.
I understand the differences between male and female leaders, and their
perceptions and how this has tested out in psychology. However, even the
female leaders that I know in BSA have not seen this as much. What was
striking to me (and my wife) was the each of the 10 girl scout leaders
present had such an experience to share, while only one of the 5 boy
scout leaders present had such a story (all participants were women).
Unscientific study, certainly. But the numbers are stiking in such a
I'm more curious about the prevalence of these sorts of things in other
areas. I personally haven't seen it. My wife hasn't seen it. The other
women in BSA that I know (from Wood Badge or Adult Leader Basic) didn't
volunteer any knowledge on this.
-- Jason A. Cruse
University of Denver
"Toujours en avant. Si Dieu avait voulu que l'homme reculat, il lui
aurait mis un oeil derriere la tete."
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