Fred Weber (troop4@MIDWEST.NET)
Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:17:50 -0500
Bruce E. Cobern wrote:
>Paul, I believe you are confusing two DIFFERENT rules, which are often
>confused. The youth protection rules DO NOT STATE ANYWHERE that there need
>to be two adults present. What they do state, and what is the foundation
>on which the whole YP picture is built, is that there NEVER be ONE adult
>alone with ONE youth. Thus, in a mixed age group there must be at least
>three people, but the third person can be either another youth or another
I Disagree with your interpetation of the rule.. Our Council, the Greater
St. Louis Area Council, INSISTs on the "rule of four". Very plainly this
means that there has to be at least two adults and two scouts at EVERY
scouting activity. This protects both the Scouts and the adults. This
includes merit badge counselors..etc... It is not a difficult rule to
follow...often the second adult is a spouse..
>The TWO ADULT rule you are talking about refers to the leadership required
>on an activity. This requires two adults FOR THE ACTIVITY, one of whom is
>over 21, etc.
Define a scouting activity... driving a car full of scouts is an scout
activity..as is merit badge couseling, etc...etc...
>The reason for this is so that, if there is an injury which
>requires someone to be taken to the hospital, etc., there will still be at
>least one adult to stay behind with the rest of the group.
This is NOT the only reason for the rule...better review the youth
> I know that, then, there will be only one adult left with the remainder of
the group, but that is just one of those things that happens sometimes.
>There is no requirement that I am aware of that requires either that there
>be a second adult in each vehicle, OR that only the driver's child may ride
>in the front seat.
When we car pool on activites we are in a caravan and no one stops on their
own, we often drive one adult to a car but no car goes off by itself..this
way no adult is never alone with the scouts out of site of others...
Maybe this will help.
>I hope this helps clear up any confusion.
Bruce E. Cobern
I used to be a "crab"
AND A GOOD OL' CRAB TOO (this is not intended to be poking fun at any
woodbadgers,,,it was supposed to poke fun at me being a crab...)
Fred Weber, patrol leader of the Crab Patrol...
Kaskaskia District, Greater St. Louis Area Council
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