Re: Eagle BOR Failure?
Bruce E. Cobern (bec@NYC.PIPELINE.COM)
Thu, 12 Sep 1996 00:21:32 GMT
On Sep 11, 1996 13:55:34, 'hilding holroyd <hilding@BLUESTONE.COM>' wrote:
>My only question on Warren's procedures regards those midnight-hours
>candidates that turn in their papers the day before they turn 18. What
>if they "fail" the Board of Review?
That's a real problem, and one I discuss all the time with those Eagle
candidates who wait for the last minute. A Scout who is already over 18 at
the time of his board is the only Scout who can "fail" an Eagle board, IMO,
rather than being "deferred." Since all the work for Eagle must be
completed by the Scout's 18th birthday, unless the problem is with the
paperwork, a Scout who is already 18 at the time of the board has NO
opportunity to do anything to correct whatever problem it is that led to
his not passing the board in the first place. That is the risk these young
men take when they wait until the last minute, and it is a risk I try to be
sure they are aware of in advance.
>I am District Advancement Chairman for Whispering Pine District in
>Jersey Shore Council, New Jersey. Here are some guidelines that I use:
Gee, we are not far apart in philosophy, procedures, OR geography. :-) I
will clip most of your procedures list, which is very similar to mine, and
leave only those parts on which I have questions.
>1) The candidate fills out the proper form and submits it to Council.
>BEFORE HIS 18th BIRTHDAY. If the office is closed, then he must get
>the application to me. I will then note it was submitted before he
>turned 18, and forward it to Council.
What about the Scout who completes all the WORK by his 18th birthday, but
has not yet completed the paperwork? My understanding is that the
paperwork need not be submitted by 18, as long as the mb's, project,
leadership & sm conference have taken place by then.
>Board of Review
>1) MUST occur within 6 months of the submission of the application.
>an explanation must be sent to National.
I don't believe this is quite correct. If the bor is not held within THREE
months of the 18th birthday an explanation must be submitted to national.
If it is not held within SIX months of the 18th birthday then approval must
be obtained from national IN ADVANCE in order to hold the bor. I believe
this is what it says on the top of the Eagle Application.
Bruce E. Cobern
Advancement Chairman, Founders District, Queens Council, NY
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