Re: Young Eagles
Michael Cooper (mcooper@MCOOPER.SEANET.COM)
Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:40:32 -0700
This has been a great thread with lots of good ideas and comments, so I
thought I would add one more to it.
Cheryl Singhal wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Michael F. Bowman wrote:
> > 2. The requirements do not include any test for "maturity" or an "age"
> > requirement. Tenure for leadership is a requirement.
> > 3. Boys grow at different speeds and some may seem not to grow at all :-)
> This is a PERSONAL opinion (Mine).
> Without adding to the stated requirements, I do sometimes question
> whether a young Scout, (say 14 or younger?) has actually Demonstrated
> LEADERSHIP in planning, carrying out, and documenting his Eagle Project.
> And demonstrating Leadership is one of the stated requirements, quite
> aside from tenure in a leadership position.
Since Scouting is a program for the Boy (singular intented), then when
examining the Leadership merit of a boy's Eagle project, I would only
examine his performance based upon what I could determine was his
ability. His ability would be based upon the letters of recommendation,
his Eagle Packet , and his appearance and response to the BOR. As has
been stated by myself and others on this thread....age and development
is an individual thing.
> I've heard of Eagle projects where the 13-yr-old was "Leader" on a
> project involving several levels of government permits and a work force
> consisting of his grandfather's Sunday School classmates. I seriously
> question that a 13-yr-old exerted any form of leadership over those men.
> Does anyone seriously believe their grandfather would have listened to
> them at the age of 13 if GF was told to do something in a manner he did
> not feel was best? (Geez, I can't even get GM to quit honin' her knife
> on the curb!)
> My opinion, not necessarily shared by anyone else in the world.
Cheryl...try this same senario, but insert 15 or 16, even 17 in place of
the 13 and the message will not change. I currently hav a 17 yr old Jr
Asst SM. I expect him to perform all the duties of a ASM based upon his
abilities just as I expect my 23 yr old ASM to do the same. However, my
expectation of each of them are far different from one another. Thus
the same is true of an Eagle Canidate.... I expect each one to do as
much as the can possibly do to accomplish and complete the requirements
of Eagle based upon their own individual abilities. Each Eagle gets to
the Nest from a different flight, doing simular things and by completing
the same tasks in different ways. The age of an Eagle isn't as
important as the flight he took and that he landed. Some crash land
exausted and others glide in, while others circle many times before
landing. Once they land they ARE Eagles.
Just my thoughts.
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