Re: Time in rank
James A. Sheckels (sheckej@EARTHLINK.NET)
Sat, 24 Aug 1996 08:54:04 -0700
By disallowing all leadership service to accrue cumulatively, you do the
Scout a disservice. There is "NO" requirement for leadership service to be
connected to Troop election dates or periods.
The rank requirement CLEARLY states "While a Star, serve....". If this
Scout was elected while a 1st Class, then made Star before his term was
completed, the remaining service is while a Star, and MUST be counted.
National very CLEARLY and SPECIFICALLY states that THERE IS NO ROOM FOR
INTERPRETATION when it comes to rank requirements. Your unit appears to be
adding to advancement requirements.
The undertone of your concern seems to be the pace at which the Scout is
advancing. As Scoutmaster, you have the ability to moderate this pace
through other tools - there is no need to violate a clear policy in order to
do so. I.E., in the Scoutmaster conference, is this Scout ready to advance -
has he really obtained the proper level of skill mastery, leadership, etc,
etc? If he has, there is no problem. If not, counsel as to why you believe
so, advise as to where to go next, and get on with it.
One of Sheckels unwritten, unofficial, my opinion only, Rules of Scouting:
"If the decision made does not lean toward benefit and growth of the youth
members we are here to serve, it is most likely not the best or correct
decision". Seems to fit here - you are pushing this Scout toward the "Why
do it if I can't count it?"
>From Ed Mills:
>Here is a question for the group.
>A boy received Star in July. His leadership position for that rank was
>patrol>leader. Elections are in September. He will still be patrol leader
>Mom asked the question "will the time from July to September as patrol
>leader>count towards 6 months of leadership required for life?"
>The CC and I said "no, the clock would start running at election time when a
>new>leadership position was received through election or appointment. The 2
>months would be service given back to the troop." We also
>said that in our opinion BSA policy was written in such a way that if left
>room for>individual unit interpretation.
>This has never been a problem before since no boy has ever attained the star
>and above ranks in exactly 6 months. This boy is advancing in rank at a
>break->neck pace of receiving the next rank almost to the day of the
> He>will probably be the troop's youngest eagle next year at the age of 13.
>We will be asking council for its opinion.
YIS, Jim Sheckels - I used to be a Bobwhite...SE 308-7 '82/'72-WWW-B'Hood
CR & CC Troop 742, Hope Mills United Methodist Church, NC
Member of NAUMS/District Advancement & Training Committee
3501 Farm Circle Rd, Fayetteville, NC 28306-8303
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