Re: Sunday Service Needed
Richard L. Axtman (axtman@CASTLE.DRC.COM)
Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:08:01 -0400
"Marie E. Lackore" <mlackore@ATHENET.NET> wrote:
I assume when you say you are taking your Cub Scout Pack on a weekend
camping trip that you are speaking of your Webelos only. Wolf and
Bear Scouts are not supposed to be camping. The only camping that
can be done by these two groups, outside of your Council Day Camps
and Resident Camps, is family camping.
Here is a portion of what I (Richard Axtman) originally wrote:
I'm taking my Cub Scout Pack on a weekend camp out with
another Pack and we need to have a Sunday Morning Service.
Since I am the event sponsor and the Cubmaster it is up
to me to find a "Generic" service that all families from
various religions will feel comfortable with. Do any of you
have any ideas or a service you have successfully used in
the past? I would appreciate any help you can give me
since this is the first time I've presented a Sunday Service.
My response to Marie Lackore's reply is:
Yes, I am taking my Pack on a weekend Camping trip. NO, not just
the Webelos, but the whole Pack. The problem with many Scout
Leaders is they think that younger kids, (Tigers, Wolfs and Bears)
are not ready, capable or eligible to go weekend camping.
You can take all of them camping if it is a one-on-one camp out.
This means each boy is accompanied by one of his legal guardians
or parents. In my case I am taking all the families, including
mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters. I call it a "Pack Camp Out."
You can call it "Family Camping." To me its just words that mean the
same thing, like Car or Auto, because my Pack is made up of families,
not just boys. Isn't Cub Scouts a family oriented program?
Well, at least it is in my Pack. When I think of my Pack, I think of
my entire group of families.
We will be camping at an Official BSA Cub Scout Camp. We will
have a Tour Permit from our Local BSA Council. We will have medical
forms and liability release forms signed by all parents before we
leave for camp. I think I have covered most of the bases for such
things as BSA rules, insurance and liability. If I'm wrong please
Finally Marie, you missed the real point in your response
to my request for help. You didn't give me any help. You just
created more questions with a new topic. Do you always change
the subject when you talk with someone? I didn't write to
discuss camping, but to find help with a "Sunday Morning Service."
So next time, please, try to stay on track.
An old "Harvard University Professor" once told me;
Never ASSUME. If you do, you will make an "ASS" out
of "U" and "ME"! He illustrated this lesson for
us by writing down the word "ASSUME" and then circled
the appropriate letters as he spoke. We, his students,
learned this lesson well and it seems it still rings
true today. So, Marie there is where you made your
first mistake. You assumed when you should have requested
more information first.
Marie, if you have any Sunday Services you would like to share
with me or this group, I would love to hear from you.
I'm off my soap box now and I hope your feelings weren't hurt.
I would like to thank the other members of SCOUTS-L for their
personal response to my Sunday Service request, that all of
you mailed directly to me and not to the group.
Best In Scouting To You,
Cubmaster, Pack 6
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City