Bruce E. Cobern (bec@NYC.PIPELINE.COM)
Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:26:18 GMT
On Aug 20, 1996 14:33:37, 'Bob Evans <evans@THEBORG.WES.ARMY.MIL>' wrote:
>Yes, the SM should have noticed long ago. But what if the SM is not
>on the BOR?
First of all, if the SM noticed long ago he should have taken steps to
correct it. He also has the opportunity for a SM conference - at any time,
not just immediately before a BR - where he could encourage the Scout to
brush up on the skills that are lacking, etc. However, I don't believe
that the SM conference should be a time for retesting either. Rather, it
should be a time for goal setting. Of course, amongst those goals could be
an improvement in the Scout's skills level.
As to being on the BR, the SM should not be there, at least not as a member
of the board, so the BR is not the appropriate time or place for the SM to
communicate concerns about skills levels. That should have happened long
before then. Remember, the Scout, the SM and the Committee should all be
part of one team trying their best to give the Scout the most out of the
Scouting experience. (Not a comment directed at your comments
specifically, just a reflection on the adversary relationships I see all
too often in units.)
>I'm not advocating complete re-testing. When I was doing
>BOR's, 90% of the questions concerned the rank the scout is going for.
>However, I would still like the scout to know the basics without even
>thinking. If he did not know the answers, I would certainly encourage
>him to brush up on his scout skills; I would pass him on the rank, if
>he knew the answers to the questions regarding the rank's requirements.
If you are not going to base your decision on the knowledge of the skills,
then there are ways of determining, with reasonable certainty, whether
those skills exist without actually testing them. As has been suggested by
others, questions like "what did you have to do to earn (or pass) . . ."
can give you an idea. Or, "What would you do if . . ." without actually
asking him to do it can give you a good feel for how comfortable the Scout
is in an area without making him feel like he is being asked to pass the
requirements all over again. It is amazing what kind of feel you can get
from those types of questions, especially if you have an idea about where
the Scout stands from personal observation or discussions with the SM and
I don't think we are really very far apart here, maybe really more of a
semantics problem over what a "test" is or isn't.
Bruce E. Cobern
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