Re: What is a "Class A uniform"?
Leslie D. Fife (ldfife@BACHMAN.CS.OU.EDU)
Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:57:40 -0500
> >While not an official designation, it can be useful. However,
> >we do need to make sure that this creeping militarism 8-) does
> >not turn the BSA into Junior ROTC.
> My goodness...I supose we can no longer be "Squared Away"..
> "Gung Ho" ..put in a "4-O performance"..say "Yes Sir or No Sir"..
> "Turn TO It"..or a thousand other phrases that have entered the common
> lexicon over the years.
> I heard hundreds of thousands of words and phrases while i was on
> active duty...should I eleminate all of the from our scout troop?
> Before the uproar begins..I want to state that the above is written
> mostly tongue-in-cheek..and my facial expression would convey kidding
> and sarcasm .
> Again we are losing the forest trying to concentrate on a single tree. De
> ils are important..but not as important as the overall picture.
> I feel that I detected an anti-military bias in Mr. Robberts post..
I feel I must defend Mr. Roberts, as the referenced words were my own. Sorry,
no bias. Spent nearly Eight years in Adm Rickovers Navy (submarine sonar tech).
Had good times and bad. Met good people and bad. Pretty much like everywhere
else I've been in life. OK, some bias. I do belong to the American Legion
(a veteran's organization), but not a negative one.
> and I can respect that (if my supposition is in error I apoligize in
> advance), but all thing military are not inherently evil...and a "Touch"
> of ROTC would not hurt the vast majority of Scouts or the Scouting
> movement IMHO.
I agree on the not inherently evil, but not the part about a "touch of ROTC
in the Scouting movement." They are vastly different organizations, because
their main objective (IMHO) is very different. I'm not saying that one is
better than the other, only different. Although here I do have a preference 8-)
I have seen many Scout Troops wither and die due to the Drill Instructor
mentalities and fantasies of the Scoutmaster. As the Scouts are neither
military nor para-military, I think it is essential that we be careful not
to become such. Does this mean we should have no order, discipline, or
Scouts giving it their best effort or having spirit? Absolutely not.
However, I would suggest that all troops (and families) want those things.
Still, I achieve them in my group, and in my home, using very different
tactics than those used by EM1 John A. Wibley - a pretty decent guy.
> My opinions only..love em, hate em, leave em....all the same to me
> Kent Wilkins
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City