Michael Sullivan (MRSullivan@MSN.COM)
Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:23:09 UT
I have an integrity issue with a scout. I need advice in how to handle the
issue. I think that I need an "integrity building exercise" for the scout.
(If you respond to the SCOUT-L list, please also copy me at
firstname.lastname@example.org, since I download the daily summaries of comments, and do
not always read every summary.) Please consider the following when reading
the facts below:
* The scout is LD. Sometimes I am not sure that he totally
comprehends the issue/ lesson. (Maybe I am being duped.)
* Were it a smaller troop, the SM would have seen the
* The scout has not gained from his or any other's actions.
* As I see our mission, to train youth in integrity and
leadership, we should be willing to forgive youthful
acts of indiscretion in exchange for an act of atonement.
Here are the facts:
1. I am a SM for a troop of 75+ scouts. (This incident is one of the
drawbacks of a large troop.)
2. With such a large troop, I encourage ASMs to do SM Conferences for TF,
Second Class, and First Class ranks. I reserve the upper rank conferences for
3. After a troop meeting, a scout who has been in the troop for 2+ years came
to me for a First Class SM Conference. Upon reviewing his book, I noted that
the previous ranks were signed off appropriately in his book, and we completed
the conference. (As you may note by the timing, this scout, in spite of much
encouragement, has not been too focused on rank advancement . . . but that is
4. Two days before the Court of Honor, the advancement chairman called me to
inform me that the scout had never been awarded Second Class, according to the
records submitted to Council, the TroopMaster program, and his written Board
of Review records. The advancement chairman, thinking that it was his error,
called the scout for his book, so that he could record the proper data from
the scout handbook.
5. Upon a close examination of the scout handbook, the advancement chairman
suspected forged initials on the SM Conference and BOR blanks. Not only were
dates incorrect, i.e., earlier than requirement completion above, but also the
initials were of ASMs, and ASMs & SM do not do BORs. (We did not award any
rank to the scout at the COH. The scout had never worn any Second Class
6. Subsequently, the Committee Chairperson & I set up a meeting with the
scout and his parent, a trained ASM, to review the issue. We told the scout
that we were confused, that we did not understand the initials, and that we
were hoping that he could tell us how these incorrect initials came to be
entered into his book.
7. The scout denied any knowledge that the initials were anything but
legitimate. We did not tell him, since we did not want to pass the word for
those that did not know, that the ASMs whose initials were on the BOR blank,
did not sit on any BOR. We asked the scout if he were able to remember any of
the individuals on the BOR, and he could not. The meeting ended with us
stating that the initials were incorrect, and that he attempt to remember what
may have happened.
8. I am relatively confident that all of the skill sign-off's are genuine.
8. On a later date, the scout came to me stating that another scout in the
troop had entered the initials, and that he did not tell us in the previous
meeting because he did not wish to "rat" on the other scout.
What is your advice?
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City