Re: Camping MB
Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:14:31 -0400
On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Robert Morley wrote:
> I have a few concerns with allowing scouts to use non-scouting camping trips
> for this requirement.
> 1. How many are you willing to allow of the non-BSA type. If the scout
> camped out with his family for a week, or two will you accept this? Did the
> scouts really pitch the tent or is Mom or Dad saying he did so that the scout
> may earn the MB.
I'm more than willing to except any family camping where the boy has
pitched his tent. I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with
parents vouching for the completion of a requirement. NOTE: If you have a
problem parent that you can't trust, that's a completely different matter
and should be handled appropriately.
> 2. How far back are you willing to go. Are you willing to count the
> Father/Son campouts as cub scouts and webelos. The requirement does not
> specifically state the that scout need be a scout to complete the
> requirements. Can you interpret this to mean that all camping trips in tents
> that this scout attend since he was 8 years old are acceptable. We need to
> draw the line somewhere.
Boy Scouts can only work on Scouting merit badges while they are Boy
Scouts. That's the line.
> 3. Are you learning the same type of skills by camping in your back yard as
> you are, if you are in the woods, away from home.
Maybe. In retrospect, I've seen troops that only go to camporees and
summer camp where most of the boys know as much about camping as I do
about the care of whales (I've been to Sea World). On the other hand,
there's a Scout in our very active troop who came into the troop with
better camping skills than most of the older boys -- his family has been
camping six to eight times a year since he was born.
> 4. I hate to even mention it and I know I will receive a lot of hassle from
> it, but if you allow one parent to OK a few nights camping, then you MUST
> accept any parent that says their son did ANY number of nights camping,
> without question. You must treat all parents equally.
> We have had problems in the past where a parent would see fit to "Alter" the
> requirements for their son, and "fib" a little, so that their son could earn
> the award as quickly as possible. This does not help the scout, and really
> irritates the other scouts as well.
As I pointed out above, parent problems have nothing to do with a Scout's
work towards HIS merit badge.
> One last point, if I remember correctly, when begining a merit badge, the
> scout must get the name and phone number from the scoutmaster, when the SM
> signs the blue card. It is also the counselor's responsibility to determine
> whether the scout completed the requirements for the award. I am the MB
> counselor for Camping, and I don't sign off ANY requirement unless I was
> present. If I am not present I ask one of the other ASM to sign it stating
> that they were present when the scout completed the requirement. This
> removes any question as to whether the scout actually completed the
> requirement or not.
> <dismount soapbox>
When did we remove "A Scout is Trustworthy" from the Scout oath?
<as long as the soapbox was handy...>
> An active troop should have no problem completing these requirements within
> 18 months. I don't see a need to rush it any further. The first 12 months
> should be spent concentrating on rank advancement, with MB as a side item.
You're absolutely correct. But why would you want to deny Scouts the
opportunity to earn a merit badge simply because they belong to an
inactive troop. Only the efforts of the Scout should be the basis upon
which he is measured.
Michael Kauffmann firstname.lastname@example.org
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