Re: dad&lad/mom&me/fun with son
Marie E. Lackore (mlackore@ATHENET.NET)
Sat, 20 Jul 1996 12:11:42 +0000
Sounds like you have some attitudes in your council concerning female
involvement on the leader level in Scouting, and I am sorry to hear
that. I am off to Boy Scout Summer Camp week after next with my
son's troop, and I wouldn't trade the week for the world. Spent the
week at camp with them last year also. It was a great experience.
Are your Dad and Lad's and Mom and Me's one day events? The reason I
ask is that the BSA does not support camping at the Wolf and Bear
level except in the strictest sense of family camping. There are
many changes going on right now and most likely your D/L and M/M
programs do fall under family camping. However, there are four pages
of rules and regulations that must be adhered to when doing a family
I would be very interested in securing a contact name, address and/or
phone number for both of these events. It would be most useful to
look at your programs to see how I could incorporate into the Dad and
Lad we are kicking off in fall of 1997. Could you please e-mail to
Keep up the good Scouting! Hope that the attitude toward women
leaders changes soon in your council.
Marie E. Lackore
Family Camping among other things
Vandergriff Rhonda <SCOUTS-L@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU> 19 Jul 96 9:53
> Ok, I had to post on this subject because I feel VERY strongly about it.
> My son (now an 11 3/4 year old boy scout who will soon receive his
> Tenderfoot) has both parents, but one of them DOES NOT CAMP.
> ABSOLUTELY, DOES NOT CAMP. (Get the picture) It is not his mother.
> (Get the hint?) When we first camped between his wolf and bear year, we
> were in the Southeast Missouri Council headquartered in Cape Girardeau
> MO. OUR council had an event called Fun with Son for ALL Cub Scouts.
> That enabled us to camp for the first time with the woman who has become
> my mentor in Scouts (and who has recruited me to do all the fun stuff,
> like Day Camp, Pow Wow, Den Leader Coach, since she is a District
> Commissioner). I would never have made it and probably wouldn't have
> gone if it had not been for Virginia. We also camped with another boy
> and his dad from our pack and my den. It was a wonderful experience for
> first time campers. The next year, our Council merged with the St.
> Louis Area Council (which after bringing in the Egyptian Council of
> Southern Illinois is now the GREATER St. Louis Area Council--please look
> it up on a map for a proper perspective (-: ). St. Louis had/has very
> strong opinions concerning female involvement in Scouting. They also
> have strong opinion about female/male camping experiences. They are
> very concerned that the females may not have "suitable" facilities--i.e.
> showers. The men don't have to have showers, but Council assumes that
> females do. OK, I'm off the subject and I'm really going to start
> something. I knew I shouldn't have gotten started. Anyway, our Fun
> with Son even within the district was out. Now, only Wolves to Bears
> may attend Dad & Lad OR Mom & Me. Here's the real kicker: there are
> several Dad & Lad sessions. There is only one Mom & Me. (At least last
> year, since I'm not a Cub person this summer, I didn't pay attention.)
> That means that our Dens are separated and we can't get the mentor
> experience that I had my first camping time. And, it really seems
> totally unfair. As someone posted earlier, What say you?
> Sorry, this is long and gripy, but we just got a memo at work with
> MAJOR BAD NEWS concerning parking.
> Rhonda V
> * Rhonda Vandergriff *
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