Return From Philmont
Todd N. Tingblad (tingbltn@UWEC.EDU)
Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:02:49 -0500
Just got back from my week at the Philmont Training Center (PTC). Had a
great time. It was a strange week too. Philmont is under a complete fire
ban like most of New Mexico, USA. Trek Crews do get to use their camp
stoves, but only in the fire ring provided at an approved campsite. NO
SMOKING. You may smoke in your closed up car or next to the PTC office on
the concrete. No where else!!
PTC has new paved roads and parking lots. Nice surprise. Another nice
surprise was the new schedule. Classes start on Monday so Sunday is a very
nice family and move-in day.
It was also very quite. You see, the Scouts did not start coming in until
Wednesday, so we had PTC and Camping Headquarters (CHQ) all to ourselves.
They have also added tours of CHQ for the PTC folks. Very interesting.
At the time we left Philmont on Saturday Morning, there were 46 fires
burning in New Mexico. There were some 7 in Philmont over the week (4 in
the first day). On the first day, we also heard that it had taken over six
hours to bring down a staffer that was up on the Tooth of Time and had
broken her leg. Some of the backcountry program areas were closed like
We also had a wet week. All the locals were happy to see the rain. We got
so much rain that Philmont was under a Flash Food Watch and Warning. Eagles
Net Lake looked like it was 10 feet down in water.
There was also some interesting info from the National Office folks. This
one bit will be hard to fully understand, but I'll try.
There is some concern about Woodbadge. The concern is the "I was a
'whatever'" and this type grouping (can't think of a better word) and the
put downs if you are not in that group (beaver, owl, fox, etc.). It seems
that National has taken some note of this when the Supply Division saw a
very large sales increase in Woodbadge items. While nothing is being done
right now, it looks like some new committee or a current committee may start
looking into this. NO ONE IS SAYING THIS IS A PROBLEM. It is a concern as
to recruitment of new leaders one put it. Someone said that some form a
change is needed to put the "Advance Training Back Into Woodbadge Instead Of
The Current View". You may never see anything come of this, but BSA knows
Rocket & Boats...
Great effort is taking place to try to return these items back to wood.
With Space Derby Rockets blowing up like the new "foam" version does, new
safety concerns have come up. Concern also for the scouts to have fun and
display their crafts, not a pile of "while foam".
Strange survey figure was given. The number one type of phone calls that
the Chief Scout Exec and the BSA President get from outside of the National
Office is from the parents of 2nd place finishers of Pinewood Derbies. As
we have all seen, some parents take their children's sport very seriously.
The Pinewood Derby is BSA's version.
>From the head of Boy's Life...The only way for you to get the Cub Scout
version instead of the Boy Scout version of Boy's Life is to be a registered
Cub Scout or in a Cub Pack Leadership position as your PRIMARY registration.
Commissioners and Cub Scout Roundtable staff get the Boy Scout version.
This is a computer programming problem that will be fixed when National
rewrites the registration programs. When will this happen? No one knows.
Materials on the "Enhanced Tigers" should be at all councils by now.
Materials for the packs and leaders will take a little longer.
Two Deep Leadership...
So far, nothing has changed here. Don't be surprised if a statement on this
comes along soon. Two Deep is a must...more is better.
The only talk about this is that BSA has WEB Pages up. The BSA
communication pipeline continues to be from National down through the
Councils to the units. While in the Resource Room at PTC, I went over the
material that was prepared when Skill Awards were dumped and Venture, and
New Scout patrols started. Interesting how some of that information that
council's got, I never heard about until the new Scoutmaster Handbook was
A must for everything, but does nothing. What? The protection that filing
a Tour Permit gives you (as well as Parent Permission Slips) is to show that
thought and planning were done for that outing. A strong reminder was made
that for any transportation used in a scout outing requires a tour permit.
This seemed very strange when compared to the first part. Anyway, file
those Tour Permits TWO WEEKS BEFORE you leave.
Nothing was said about uniforms. They did keep repeating, check the
Insignia Control Guidebook for the latest information on the uniform. Must
have heard that one 12 times.
It's full. Even more demand for the backcountry program is expected. PTC
is growing too. More programs will be added in the future. Sign up, get
invited, and go.
The physical space available to BSA at A.P. Hill is at its limits. The Army
will not give any more space (for now). 35,000 Scouts and Scouters is the
limit. That may change once the fee payments start coming in. Dan R. Ruth
(D.R. RUTH), who heads up the group organizing the Jamboree said, "we just
have to wait and see." Councils have already started asking to bring more
troops. They need more staff for that new fourth Action Area. Also said
that opening and closing ceremony days are the best days to see the jamboree
and DRINK LOTS OF WATER.
The BSA Program...
All parts of the BSA that is printed is available and open to all members of
the organization except when noted (legal stuff I am sure). So if you want
that book on the Camping Committee, but you are not even on the District
Committee, that's O.K. You can order it and read it as much as you want.
This is the only way we all well be able to bring the same quality program
to everyone. There is still lots of room for creativity in the BSA. We
just have to follow the program guidelines.
That's the latest that I got from the BSA National folk at PTC. Another
important point was made at Philmont. All the information you get from the
national folks is subject to change. It only becomes OFFICIAL if it comes
through your local Council or is on the BSA WEB Pages or the current BSA
printed materials. So, if you have a question about anything I have typed
here, contact your local council and find out the latest they know.
Anyway, it was another fun time for me and my wife at Philmont. Our first
time (in 1994), she asked, "When can we come back." This time she said,
"When can we come back and stay TWO weeks." I think she likes Philmont too.
Philmont -- A Scouting Paradise
Todd Tingblad -- firstname.lastname@example.org
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