Re: Yellow versus Khaki
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Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:26:42 -0500
Mark Vonderschmitt wrote:
>I mentioned some of the talk going on about uniform changes at the pack
>meeting the other night and the Cub Master (female) and a Cub Master from
>another pack (female) who helps us out both LIKE the yellow. They said that
>evidentally several surveys had been done at Philmont and the majority of
>the women like the yellow.
Surveys taken at Philmont aren't always thte direction that is finally decided
upon as well. A good example of this was the WEBELOS pins debacle,
which as some remember, had WEBELOS Cub Scouts wearing the
activity pins on the front (blue) part of the WEBELOS Cub Scout hat instead
on the WEBELOS badge colors. National wanted to do away with the colors
because two surveys taken at Philmont confirmed that most Cub Scouters
would rather see the pins on the hat instead on the badge colors. Most
cited that the badge colors, worn on the right shoulder, rip easily from the
uniform under rough play.
Cub Scouters from all over the nation complained about the hat pin idea,
which forced the National Cub Scout Committee to reverse their decision
and to retain the WEBELOS badge colors and make it an option for Cubs
to do either. Most WEBELOS wear the pins on the badge colors, the
"traditional place" for the pins since the program started in 1967.
Another example was the eventual replacement of all references to the
word "Den Mother" in Cub Scout literature, as most Den Leaders, male
AND female, would rather be called a "Den Leader" instead of a "Den
Mother". Again, three surveys taken at Philmont's Volunteer Training
Center and at two other locations stated that there still should be a
position called "Den Mother". National officially and quietly removed
the Den Mother position patches from stock in 1979.
>I said that that wasn't how it sounded like on
>this mail-list and they said the majority on the mail-list might not like
>them but the majority overall did.
That's true as well. Again, stating from the WELCOME letter, information
here should be considered as the same type of information one would get
from a friend, and not neccessarily National BSA or any other official
policy unless stated as such. However, once the folks at National decide
what exactly they want to do, I feel that everyone will be happy...both those
that enjoy the traditional yellow blouse as well as those that want to wear
the same uniform as most other Scouters. As I stated, once they do that,
official word of the new changes/modification will come through those
usual BSA communications channels.
I would ask if you feel one way or the other, to please WRITE to the
National Insignia and Uniform Committee, S310, National Office, BSA
at the Irving, Texas address and express your concern. The advisor to the
Committee will NOT confirm one way or another about the proposal, only
that "ongoing studies concerning dress by female Cub Scout leaders are
being conducted, with additional testing to be conducted in selected local
Councils before a final decision is made. No decision is made at this time,
despite any information to the contrary."
Which is true.
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