Re: new scouts patrol
John P. Cross (jpcross@PHOENIX.NET)
Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:14:03 -6
> Sandy Whiteside wrote
> out of their way). However, I am wondering if it wouldn't be appropriate to
> have a leader observe the new patrols for awhile. (There are plenty of
> leaders available).
> Anyways, just looking for an opinion on helping the boys understand this whole
> new situation they have been thrown into. When your involved, you know what
> to do. You can see the floundering in the new scouts' faces -- Where do I go?
> What do I do? Nobody told them they had to go the Awards person after they
> finished their scout rank if they ever wanted the award. They assumed since
> the Scoutmaster signed off, it was a done deal..... until after four weeks and
> they still had not been recognized.
> The troop is great overall, but I'm just wondering if the new scouts should
> have at least 3-6 months of observation with just a little input from leaders?
> I don't have a problem with letting them flounder and make mistakes and eat
> terrible looking pancakes after they have somewhat of a clue.!
Excuse me while I adjust my soapbox................
(1) IMHO the new scout patrol is not the best way to go. We got rid
of those several years ago and it has helped our program a lot. Your
troop may have success with them, but we did not. The problem is
exactly what Sandy refers to: How can a green scout ever hope to be a
patrol leader when he has never seen one in action? We went back to
the old way and have patrols with a broad distribution of ages. The
older boys get elected patrol leader, they and the other older boys
help the new scouts, and the patrol method really works.
I know about troop guides, so please don't flame me on that one!
(2) IMHO, venture crews are not the way to go either. For the
oppposite reason, however. The venture patrols cream your older boys
out of the lineup leaving a leadership vacuum. We have an active
high adventure program which is carried out in addition to the
regular troop program, not in place of it for the older scouts.
(3) We use our assistant scoutmasters as "patrol advisors" (see the
troop information section at the URL below for more information about
deployment of assistant scoutmasters). This helps a lot.
(4) Sandy's son wouldn't have been in the dark about Scout rank if he
had a patrol leader that knew the ropes.
(5) I am not saying that the above fits all situations, only that it
works for us. Your results may vary. This advice is worth exactly
what you paid for it.
John P. Cross, Eagle Class of 1966
Scoutmaster, Troop 869, Houston TX
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