Re: help identify this emblem
Rodger Morris (rodger@FISHNET.NET)
Mon, 3 Jun 1996 07:08:10 -0700
I am forwarding this correspondence to SCOUTS-L in the hope that
somebody may be able to assist Mr. Hall in identifying a very old
BSA medallion with what appears to be a swastika on the back side
of the medallion.
>Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 06:57:46
>To: Robert T Hall <email@example.com>
>From: Rodger Morris <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: help identify this emblem
>At 09:36 PM 6/2/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>In article <31B06C54.email@example.com> you wrote:
>>: The Zuni Indians have a symbol that looked like a swastika, but
>>: is a mirror image of the Nazi swastika. It is a symbol of good.
>>: The Nazis took the swastika from the old Aryan tribes. It was also
>>: a symbol of good before it was perverted by the Nazis to their own
>>: evil purposes. The swastika remains a symbol of good amongst the
>>: Aryans in India to this day, or so I am told.
>>: I remember an Australian Scouter saying on SCOUTS-L that he had
>>: seen similar medallions in Australian Scouting dating from the
>>: 1920s and 1930s. These medals used the Aryan swastika.
>>: This symbol was also known in ancient Germany and Scandinavia as
>>: the "fylfot".
>>: Yours in Scouting,
>>: Rodger Morris <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>>: Scoutmaster, Troop 852, BSA
>>: Ventura County Council
>>: Camarillo, CA, USA
>>Thanks for that information. Do you have any more about the medallion
>>itself, such as was it a merit badge or what? Was it just a piece of
>>memorabilia, or an award of some sort?
>>I have never seen or heard of anything like this medallion and am very
>>Thanks again for any info you might have.
>I regret that I have no further information than that which I posted.
>Perhaps you could contact the Scouting Museum in Kentucky. They might
>be able to help you. I shall also post your request on SCOUTS-L.
>Yours in Scouting,
I'd like to know the history of this medallion myself. I think it
is likely that the medallion has the Zuni swastika on the reverse
side and that it likely dates from the 1920s or thereabouts. The
German Nazis got their start in the 1920s and did not become really
prominent until Hitler was elected in 1933. I find it unlikely that
Scouting organizations would have used the swastika after the Nazis
suborned it and used it as their party symbol.
Yours in Scouting,
Rodger Morris <email@example.com>
Scoutmaster, Troop 852 Woodbadge 416-18
Ventura County Council Philmont, 1973
Camarillo, California, USA "I used to be a Beaver..."
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