Re: Help - CM w/ son going to another Troop(long)
Lew Orans (lporans@ONRAMP.NET)
Sat, 6 Apr 1996 12:19:24 -0600
At 11:55 AM 4/4/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello everyone; I have a small problem - I think.
>Bottom Line: My son wants to QUIT this TROOP because of this - and we have
>brought this to the young SM (26) and he said mention that this is part of
The SM may be the one who needs to grow up. Scouting is a special place. We
live by the Oath and Law. The SM must set this example. When he tolerates
less on the basis of "boys will be boys" he is just not getting it. You
steps in moving to a new troop seem the best answer. Even if the SM pledges
to clean up his act (he is the responsible party after all), I would not put
your son through the risk. You can be patient, but at 12 or 13 life is just
to short for that kind of patience. A Scout should not have to wait for this
behavior change in his troop. Your SM's attitude must have been a real
disappointment. (I wonder if your SM has ever taken training. Perhaps he
needs to do so. He will find all he needs in the SM Handbook, and at
Scoutmastership Fundamentals (basic SM training). All troop leaders should
have completed this course). Yours SM may also just be too young and/or too
close to the boys to let him control/influence the behavior in the troop.
>However, now here my concerns. I am a Cub Master which a part of my job is to
>promote/encourage my Webelos to go up and join the Boy Scouts Program or
>expose them of it - with the same Church correct???? My own personal feeling
>are playing a Major role here - because I totally disagree with the events
>that took place ( I really don't want to get into more detail here - but I
>will reply privately ) and how it was handled by the SM. So here I am a CM
>and supposed to encourage MY CUBS who I devoted my whole time to and LOVE
>VERY MUCH - to promote them to a Boy Scout Program which I disagree with. Boy
>- this is VERY TOUGH to do because it goes against what MY Heart Believes.
Your heart, Scouting, the Scout Oath and the Scout Law. That IS the bottom
line. I think your idea of a meeting with the Troop Committee is an
excellent one. I would suggest that you also talk with your Chartered
Partner Representative (the person in the church who serves as a
council-member-at-large for all Scouting in the Church. Your best bet is to
have a quiet chat beforehand with the Minister. Put him in the picture.
>I have scheduled a meeting with the Boy Scouts Board for this Troop to go
>over the issues to readdress the IDEA of Scouting and what is ALL ABOUT for
You have it right. You care and that is most important.
I offer the following excerpt from Scoutmastership Fundamentals (1995
Printing). You might want to share this with your Minister and the troop
committee. It is the official statement of the BSA and certainly applies here.
The Mission of the Boy Scouts of America: "It is the mission of the Boy
Scouts of America to serve others by helping to instill values in young
people and in other ways prepare them to make ethical choices over their
lifetime in achieving their full potential."
Caring Adults: "... bringing the values of Scouting through requires the
effective training of adult leaders in understanding how youth grow and
develop, in creating an environment for learning and growth, and in
providing them with activities and meaningful experiences that reinforce
And this is the clincher (right from Fundamentals. It is in Wood Badge and
the Junior Leader Training Conference, too).
Scouting is a special place: "The rules are the ones we know well -- the
Scout Oath and the Scout Law.
We create a safe haven in Scouting, a place where everyone should feel
physically and emotionally secure. We do this in several ways:
-- We set the example for ourselves and others by always behaving as Scouts
should. We live the Scout Oath and Law each moment of each day, to the best
of our abilities.
-- We refuse to tolerate any kind of inappropriate put-down, name-calling,
or physical aggression.
-- We communicate our acceptance of each participant and each other through
expressions of concern for them and by showing our appreciation whenever
-- We create an environment based on learning and fun. We seek the best
from each participant, and we do our best to help him achieve it."
Creating a Safe Haven: "... creating a safe haven is best accomplished by
personal example. Your attitudes, your example and your expectations will
set the tone."
I hope these statements will be of value. They really explain who we are.
Scouting is, as B-P said, "a game with a purpose."
Yours in Scouting,
Sam Houston Area Council
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City