Re: Hazing or just fun?!
dexter lovrien (drlovrie@WOLF.CO.NET)
Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:56:19 -0600
>Thank you Peter for your post.
>When I joined the troop I had few friends , because I attended a school
>several miles away. I suppose I was a natural target , being asthmatic
>and having ADD ... I went through the hazing and initiation , but thirty
>years later I can still feel the hurt.
>I stuck it out , but a lot of kids didn't. When I became I Leader I
>swore that no kid would ever suffer the way I did if I could help it.
>I told the Scouts that any hazing would result in the offenders going home
Thats the spirit, Ian. Use your position as a leader to correct/prevent the
wrongs you had no control over as a youth.
To me this whole "Hazing or just fun?" question is really answered in the
question itself. If you have to ask if its wrong or right, it is generally
wrong. Most "is it right or wrong" questions work out that way. Besides,
wether or not it is FUN has a lot to do with IF you are a HAZER or the
HAZEE. To be honest, as a youth I've been both, and at the time, being a
hazer IS lots of fun. As others have posted, some of us realize, TOO LATE,
that fun at expense of anothers bruised feeling is not really much fun at all.
Well, I'm not a kid any more and I regret making anyone feel as bad as I
felt when I was "IT". The actvities I endured/took part in, were done with
the leadership of the troop and the staff of the camp-o-rees turning a blind
eye to, after pretty much telling us "Don't let me _catch_ you doing any
hazing" (understood by most as "do it but don't get caught")
That sort of thing should not have happened then (late 50s-early 60s) and it
should not be happening now. Like, Ian, when I became active as a leader, I
too swore that no kid would ever suffer the way I did if I could help it.
As a Scout, I had little power to stop it, I did participate as a hazer
(just going along with the crowd) and I now see the damage it can cause. I
can't remember who was "IT" when I helped so I can't tell them "I am turely
However, I post is to the list, to all who were the butt of the joke, I am
sorry that my thoughtlessness caused you hurt. I will do every thing in my
power to see those in my charge do not continue hazing.
Dexter R. Lovrien
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