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Wed, 20 Mar 1996 22:25:04 -0600
B.C. asked :
>This I am old enough to remember! Sometime between the 1973 and 1977
>Jamborees all my friends started grabbing up CSP's. Word was that National
>had asked for the BSA identification on all of them and some of the CSP's
>currently in use were to become obsolete (meaning "valuable" to a patch
>collector). Traders at the 1977 Jamboree were always looking for the
>"fully-embroidered, no scout sign" CSP's. My old council (Utah National
>Parks) had one.
>I'll bet someone out there can quote the actual communication (including
>date) from National to the councils. Right?
Wrong. The "actual communication" came from the BSA's Uniform and Insignia
Committee and appears in the current edition of the Insignia Guide. Basically
it states that all BSA uniform insignia must contain one or more of the
* a full-color or one-color fluer-de-lis
* the wording "Boy Scouts of America", "Scouting/USA", "Order of the Arrow", or
* the initials BSA or B.S.A, WWW or W.W.W., the "Big E" or the styled "E"
Some Councils had "stealth FDLs" (embroderly hid the fleur-de-lis, and if you
held the patch to light, you can see the overstitching) to keep their original
design and meet the new BSA guidelines; other added smaller emblems
>I'll bet someone out there even has a catalog of CSP's past and present
with >estimated values and such. Right?
Yeah. I'm sure that someone on Patch-L (the mailing list that talks about
like this in greater detail than we do here -- the address to subscribe is
LISTSERV@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu for those that want to know where it's at!) does.
There are several books out there that have illustrations of each CSP that
exist (and some that don't but do!) and their relative values. I have a book
that explains where each Council is and the names of the Council going back to
>What is the exact meaning of CSP anyway, "council strip patch" or "council
"Council Shoulder Patch" is the official BSA name of the colorful shoulder
which replaced the "red and white" shoulder strips.
Thanks for asking!
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