Re: Hazing or just fun?!
Daniel W Brown (dabrown2@VT.EDU)
Tue, 19 Mar 1996 07:48:12 +0500
>My question is, whether or not asking a new scout, or an older one for that
>matter, to retrieve the things listed such as "smoke shifter," "tent
>stretcher," "plaid paint," or other things like a "Spaghetti bender" is
>considered undr BSA policy to be hazing.
> I realize that any of these things can be taken too far, but are we to
>the point that any good natured fun is outlawed, or should I say "in
>violation of policy?" Please, no flaming. I sincerely don't know if we in
>BSA have succomb to regulating beyond common sense in order to cover our
>tails. What is the general consensus and what is the policy?
This terratory has been well covered here and you will find dozens, possibly
hundreds that agree with you. On the other hand, like many activities that are
banned or regulated in scouting, hazing can be dangreous and destructive in
some circumstances. It is too difficult for many scouts and leaders to see the
line between good fun and permanent damage due to many reasons including
mob mentality and individual experience. I will not subject the list to
horror stories that I recounted last year, but I have seen scouts damaged and
driven out of scouting by hazing incidents. Some have argued that these scout
did not belong because they could not "take it". I, for one am not willing
the risk for an activity with questionable value.
No flame intended but as many in this list can tell you from last year's
I feel very strongly on this issue. Because I, Mr Spielberg, and others can
incdents of suviving and even enjoying hazing and initions does not mean
are universally benign or useful. It all comes down to a decision that you
have to make
regarding the well being about all of the scouts in your charge, whether
they can "take
it" or not.
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