Re: Life to Eagle requirements, is this fair?
Bruce E. Cobern (bec@PIPELINE.COM)
Thu, 14 Mar 1996 12:45:44 -0500
On Mar 13, 1996 17:59:43, 'Mike Montoya <mmm@IMS.MARIPOSA.CA.US>' wrote:
>I don't get it people....
>Every one (well most of you) are all over this guy for adding additional
>requirements to the Eagle project approval process, except for Number 1,
>which he REQUIRES an oral presentation, I see this as another violation of
>the "no more, no less" concept, yet I see many of your posts are agreeing
>with this part of his additional requirements.
>So what is it? No more, no less; or it's OK because that's what WE do?
I am a district advancement chairman. One of the REQUIRED steps before a
candidate can begin his project is to have my approval (or that of my
designee). In order for me to give that approval I need to be satisfied
that the project meets the criteria of an Eagle project. Nowhere, to my
knowledge, is there any description or rules restricting how I determine
whether or not to give that approval. The Eagle requirement says that the
Scout must use the workbook in completing the project requirement. It DOES
NOT say that he merely needs to complete the first part of the workbook and
mail it in to me in order to get my approval.
The fact of the matter is that it is much easier, IMHO, to determine
whether the project is acceptable by having a conference with the Scout
than it is by reading words on paper. Therefore, subject to extenuating
circumstances, I require a personal discussion of the project with the
candidate and his SM before I will grant approval.
I firmly believe that this is perfectly in keeping with both the spirit and
the letter of the requirements, and will continue to believe so until
someone shows me otherwise in writing.
This is significantly different from saying that there is a minimum number
of hours, that the troop must help, that the project must be completed
within a year, etc. Those all add to the requirements. The meeting is
merely a METHOD of fulfilling a requirement that is clearly there.
Bruce E. Cobern
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City