Re: Life to Eagle requirements, is this fair?
Rick Gill (rgill@PRIMENET.COM)
Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:53:55 -0700
At 08:43 AM 3/13/96 CST, you wrote:
> My first question is: During the meeting he stated that if the boy's
> name was not on the attendance sheet for that night, he would not even
> look at the Life to Eagle Packet (much less sign it) because the
> meeting was a requirement. Can he do that? Do other districts do
> that? Isn't that an additional requirement that he is putting on the
Who died and named this guy king ? What happens if a new scout
comes in at age 17 years and 7 months and missed HIS MEETING ?
We are a military town and we get lots of scouts from other Troops
and at various stages of advancement. Get to the COUNCIL and
talk to the folks in charge this guy is OUT THERE!
> The next part of the meeting I had no problems with, he simply
> reviewed the Life to Eagle Packet and the Eagle Scout Rank
> Then he said there were 6 more things that he required and went on to
> specify them:
> 1. The boy could not sent him the Life to Eagle Packet to sign, or
> have a parent or SM drop if off. Rather the boy had to come in person
> and do a oral presentation of the project--"...sell me on the project,
> make me feel like it is something you really want to do...", he said.
> I could not find anywhere in the requirements that said the boy must
> do a oral presentation of the project, is this a requirement?
> 2. The project must be 100 hours.
Nope, Know this one is wrong!
> 3. The results of the project must be typed.
> 4. It must be something the boy wants to do very badly, not just
> something that the parents or SM talked him into.
> 5. The boy must involve the other boys in the troop. (I do not have a
> problem with this, but I don't see it in the national requirements.)
Our Troop is large and most boys are very active in other activities, often
times the bulk of the help has come from other Orgs (Chartering and otherwise)
this is especially true when we had a bunch of projects in a very short period
of time, due to delays of some and circumstances beyond the boys contro for
others. What happens if the skills required to finish the project are beyond the
ability of a young troop ? Strength, and size ? We have had projects that a
troop in town could not have done. Big difference in size and strength in a
of 17 year old high school seniors and a patrol of 10 1/2 year old elementary
> 6. It must be finished in one years time after getting signed off my
> I would like comments on how your district/council handles this, and
> comments from other Advancement Chairmen. Is this guy putting
> additional requirements on the boys in this district?
> Who should I complain to?
Get this guy away from the boys, if he is this arbitrary he has outstayed his
welcome. HAVE HIM READ THE BOOK AND FOLLOW THE RULES.
Complain early, loud and often.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City