Re: Adult Leadership - Coed Activities
Ted Burton (tedbrtn@CYBERHIGHWAY.NET)
Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:05:56 -0700
There has been much discussion of the two-adult rule as applied to coed
outings. I have an occupational hazard as an attorney of reading language
rather precisely, which admittedly can be more precisely than the original
writer wrote it, and thus misleading. Still:
>"No fewer than four individuals (always with the minimum of
>two adults) go on any backcountry expedition or campout."
That rule speaks of 'four individuals (always with the minimum ... two
adults'. That language standing alone permits the outing to be two adults,
and two young people. If we then take our four individuals, and make one of
the adults female, and one of the young people female, the rule is not
broken. We still have four individuals, and two adults.
>Under "Leadership Requirements for Trips and Outings", same page, under
>"two-deep" leadership", the last sentence reads "Coed *overnight* activities
>require male and female adult leaders."
I submit that with one adult male, and one adult female, we have as a
matter of English 'male and female adult leaders.'
>Using a little "Scouters' Sense", and knowing that if you take
>two male leaders normally on an overnight trip WITHOUT female members, if
>you take one female youth member, you MUST have dual
>female adult supervision.
No, there is a logical error in in assuming nothing changes in the
requirements respecting the original two males. You must have an adult
female present. You can have two-deep leadership, while letting one of the
two male leaders stay home, or you may have three-deep leadership by merely
adding the female.
Now, using a little "Scouter's Sense" we might well decide that, if we can
do so as a matter of volunteers, and do so without overwhelming the youth
by making the youth feel like an add-on to an adult outing, taking four
adults or even more can be a good idea. Among other things, if a Scouter's
wife is not using "Shadow Scouter's Sense," an adult male Scouter might be
well advised to have his opposite adult female Scouter and himself
chaperoned by one or more other adults. I have met a Mrs. Assistant
Scoutmaster or two who were very jealous of the Troop, and adding a female
adult leader would have been the frosting on that cake. That is Burton's
Adult Protection Policy. ;-)
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