Re: Charter Reps
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Tue, 13 Feb 1996 14:27:52 -0600
Welcome Rob! Don't forget to introduce yourself to all of us!
Glad you're here!
Rob Hathaway wrote:
>I've been reading the controversy over the COR position. The >chartering
organization is given a number by the BSA. That >number what ever it may be
is the same for a pack, troop, team, >or post chartered to that organization.
Not neccessarily. For instance, Troop 000 and Post 999 could
be two separate numbers, therefore there may be instances whereby
Emge Corporation (a big packing firm here) can charter NINE
separate units, with nine separate chartered organization reps
within four communities.
So, it could be that Janice (my made-up person whom serves
as Advisor for one unit and as COR for another) could indeed
do this, if that's what the "Institutional Head" (IH) says so
(and if the DE or DD is willing to go along with this....remember
that he or his represenative (a Commissioner) has to sign and clear that
charter --in this case, the rechartering-- of the unit.
>There is only one charter organizational representative for
>the chartering organization. Thus your hypothetical Janice can >not be the
COR for the troop, while her husband Vince serves as >COR of the post,
unless the units are chartered to different >organizations, or the same
organization who have been given two >different charters.
There you go! Good point. By the way, Janice and Vince aren't
married. Janice works FOR Vince, whom owns the largest cable
television and pager communication firm in the area.
If Troop 000 and Post 000 have two SEPARATE CHARTERS, then there
IS that possibility that both can be CORs (CRs) of two separate
units chartered to the same "parent". However, in reality, this
doesn't happen too often, unless the two are really far apart from
each other distance-wise (as in different Districts) and there's
an agreement that someone signs the paperwork for BOTH units.
>By gum, I learn something new every day. This is my second day >getting
this LISTSERV, and I haven't finished reading through >LOG9601. But when I
read this post, I had to pull down the >'dog-eared' Cub Scout Leader Book
because I was sure this post >was wrong about COR's serving all units from a
single charter >partner.
Part of being here, Rob, is being able to state your experiences
and your thoughts on the matter...you're right at home! I may
disagree with you (or anyone else, for that matter!), but here
is a place where we respect everyone's ability to find out the
answers and to report it here, so that Utah (the person that asked
the question) can "sift through it all" and have SEVERAL answers
to his question, not just *pounding on desk* THIS IS THE WAY IT
IS...DON'T LIKE IT? TOUGH!"
>I am making this post, (probably out-of-line since I'm not up
>to speed on this thread), to assert that the CSLB does indeed >state that
"If the chartered organization has more than one unit, >the representative
(CSLB = Cub Scout Leader Book)
>This is in Chap 4, page 82 of my 1992 edition. Stubborn me, I >had to keep
looking, sure that this had changed on me like >everything else does when
I'm not looking. Not so, my 1982 CSLB >says word for word the same thing,
only back then the position >was 'Scouting Coordinator'. (chap.4, pg.30).
Yep. I was wondering when someone was going to catch *that*.
I was hoping that folks would have concentrated on that fact
rather than the "CR and primary leadership" point which in my
dated stuff here says one thing, and in Kathie's more current
stuff (and the course she just taught three weeks ago) is something else.
>The source of my confusion stems from the fact that local Packs >and
Troops, including my own, seem to be ignoring this. I can >see advantages
tho to this idea.
Yep. Not just your own, Rob, but LOTS of units and their
professional support teams are ignoring this in the interest of
"getting more units onboard".
>Well enough on this, live and learn. Back to lurking, until I am >up to speed.
It sounds like you're up to speed right now. Don't lurk too
long...and once again, welcome...we have a place around the
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