Re: Camping without adult supervision
Alan Houser (troop24@EMF.NET)
Thu, 14 Dec 1995 23:15:11 -0800
Rob Morley <Rmorley@STATE.MA.US> asks:
>I would like to ask for help from the list.
>I got into a bit of a discussion regarding the need for adult leadership on
>camping trips sanctioned by the troop. The scoutmaster was saying that he
>leaned from his recent trip to his Scoutmaster foundementals course that
>patrols can plan and go on camping trips without ANY adult leadership, and
>still consider the trip a scout sanctioned trip, thereby being protected
>under the troop liability insurance.
>Now I personally would never , as a committee member, authorize this type of
>camping trip for a patrol. However, the scoutmaster said that this applies
>to ALL patrols, not just the venture patrol.
>Does anyone out there know if the scoutmaster is indeed right. If so, this
>must be written somewhere.
>If, on the other hand, I am right, it would also be helpful to provide this
>information to the scoutmaster, so that he may update his information.
>From the Guide to Safe Scouting (1995 printing), page 4, in boldface
(meaning that it denotes rules and policies):
"Two registered adult leaders, or one adult and a parent of a participating
Scout, one of whom must be at least 21 years of age or older, are required
for all trips or outings. There are a few instances, such as patrol
activities, when no adult leadership is required. Coed overnight activities
require male and female adult leaders."
It seems a bit ambiguous here to me. When it says all trips or outings
on the one hand, one might suppose a patrol activity to be something else.
Perhaps a trip down to the bowling alley or over to the ice rink. But
when it describes coed overnight activities with the same term as used
for patrol activities, it suggests that patrol overnights don't require
adult leadership present.
Nevertheless, I would favor your position and require adults present on
any overnight outing. Having had a Scout evacuated by helicopter because
of a card game in a tent in the past year, I would prefer to have someone
there who is definitely looking out for the kids when they aren't looking
out for themselves. If the patrol wants to do a backyard campout, that
would be OK by me, as long as the parents were home.
Alan R. Houser ** Scoutmaster, Berkeley Troop 24 ** email@example.com
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