Re: BOR Help -- to retest?
Bruce E. Cobern (bec@PIPELINE.COM)
Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:48:30 -0500
On Dec 08, 1995 07:59:09, '"Paul H. Brown" <phbrown@CapAccess.org>' wrote:
>> Well, since the requirement is to know a particular skill at a point in
>> time it would seem to me that what you really need to do if your
>> lead you to believe that the person who signed off the requirements did
>> do his job is to train or retrain that person.
>To take knots, as an example: the requirement is to tie half a dozen
>Period. It doesn't say to tie them with the book closed.
>It doesn't say to tie them twice. It doesn't say to tie them in the dark,
>handed, behind your back, or hanging from your knees on a branch. Just
>knots. Once, where someone who has the authority to sign the line in the
>can see it. Not again, months later, before a bunch of frowning strange
>who are clueless about scouting's aims and methods.
>> Unfortunately I do not control the BOR in my troop. If I did there
>> be a quantum change in the type of questions being asked. Most likely
>> questions being asked at EVERY board would be of the type asked at an
>> Board. The aims of Scouting address Character, Citizenship, and
>> The BOR should be examining the Scouts progress in developing in these
>> areas. Thus, I agree with your point about maturity, but not about
>> competency. Thus I would ask questions about the Oath and Law, what he
>> likes, dislikes about Scouting and the troop, how the troop could be
>> better, which skill was the most fun, etc., etc. You would not hear
>> do you tie a taut line hitch." But you might hear "What did you make as
>> your camp gadget."
>Agreed. If the BOR doesn't ask the "How could the troop be better"
>they are missing an important opportunity for feedback.
Isn't it amazing how many people are more concerned about whether a Scout
can tie a not or bake a pie and are so much less concerned about what kind
of citizen they are growing up to be? It gets real frustrating at times
(including within my own troop because the advancement chairman refuses to
let go of the skills questions at the lower ranks, although we also ask the
Thanks for your support. Sometimes I get the feeling that there are too
few of us and too many of them.
Bruce E. Cobern
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City