Re: BOR Help -- to retest?
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Thu, 7 Dec 1995 15:48:57 -0600
Mike Derleth wrote:
>IF the BSA says no retesting is allowed, but "asking general questions
>about the skills learned" is appropriate, what is the BOR to do if it is
>very apparent from the answers, that the Scout is clueless concerning
>a major skill he should have learned?
They don't pass him at that time. There's NOTHING that says that the Scout HAS
to be approved for the next rank RIGHT AT the "three month" or "two month" or
"four month" point. Each Scout advances at his *own* level...if that means
some Scouts will have to go before the Second Class Board of Review three times
before he is "passed", that's the way it has to be done.
A lot of you don't remember when we had our Scouts to conduct the Boards of
for Tenderfoot, Second and First Class. There was a LOT of "multiple
the Board, which was composed of the Patrol Leaders' Council with the
or a member of the Troop Committee serving as non-voting advisor. This was
the Scouts decided that "while he knows his hiking skills, his map reading
bite" or "he can swim but he kinda went through the first aid skills...I
have him to treat me right now!"
Remember, while we adults may think we're hard on our Scouts, our youth
really put the hammer down and force them to REALLY WORK HARD FOR THAT NEXT
It's a shame that in order to put some more teeth into the Troop Committees, we
killed a most effective (if done right!) part of our program!
>Some answering this question will respond "if it was signed off, he must
>be passed". If the BOR does this, however, don't they set themselves up
>for the unqualified Eagle scout question posed by the Nault family that's
>currently being debated? Neat quandry, huh?
Not really, Mike. This is why it's so very important that the Troop or Team
Committee attend Scoutmaster Fundamentals and BE TRAINED. This, along with
actually OBSERVING the Scouts in action during Troop meetings, campouts and
community service events, makes the Committee more than just a "rubber stamp"
on the bottom of the Advancement Reports.
A good Committee will consult with the Scoutmaster, his or her Assistants, and
even some Merit Badge counsellors IN ADVANCE of the Board of Review. So when
Jimmy Jones comes in there, ready to advance toward Star, the Board members will
already have the information they need from the Scoutmaster and counsellors as
to how his skills were. The Scout can add his own words and feelings and answer
the questions about the program. Together, this will allow the Board to
an decision without forcing the Scout to "tie two half-hitches" or to
the correct way to splint an arm".
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