Re: Re: Uniforming
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Wed, 6 Dec 1995 10:21:12 -0600
>Jeff, In general I agree with the thrust of your reply. I guess I'm
>searching in a different direction and perhaps other folks can take me
>to the data. For example;
>Is data collected on the following type of information;
>1. What percentage of scouts who complete cub/webelos transition to
>boy scouts? (looking for national level data)
Yes. That data is available by Region, by Area and by local Council. Within the
Council, it's broken down by District and several District Executives use that
data as part of their "critical accomphishment" goals.
The 1992 data (the last set I have access to) says that 48.7 percent of all
WEBELOS Cub Scouts graduate into a Boy Scout Troop. This is an increase from
32.9 percent in 1991. Figures which were "beat around" in 1993, that I've
used for a talk that year, say 42.9 percent. So, our two-year Cub-to-Scout
program is working and working well in most places. The Southern Region
still has a problem with getting WEBELOS to become Boy Scouts.
(my PERSONAL thought is that if camping is limited to the second year of
WEBELOS, and that this "New Scout Patrol" concept becomes an option instead
mandate, those numbers would tend to climb. A lot of WEBELOS get burned out
from two years of overnight camping BEFORE they become Boy Scouts, and then
after the first year of camping at the same place they camped before as
WEBELOS, they leave, because "that's all we do...go to the same places to
>2. Nationally, what is the percentage of scouts who sign up for a
>second/third/fourth etc, year in scouting? It decreased I am sure,
>what what is the data?
That, I couldn't find out for you. There are various factors that determine
whether or not Scouts continue, and the "reference material" is the unit
charters. I think that this is something that can be looked at, so maybe
someone at National's Statistical Service (part of the Council Services
Division) will add someday. Based on the BSA's Tenure Report, however, the
longer you stay as a Scout, the less in numbers you are. But that's common
stuff, and no report needed to tell me that.
>3. What statistics are available on the rank, length of 'service' when
The last set of figures I have on this was taken from the BSA's "Tenure Report"
which is one of those National/Council reports. This was from 1990:
"17 percent (up significantly from the past three years) of all Scouts stay in
Scouting past the third year."
"The average rank of those Scouts remaining in Boy Scouting past the second
year is that of Star Scout rank."
(you didn't ask for this, but...)
"The average age of the Scout which leaves our program is 13.8 years of age."
This was part of the data used to justify the increase attention to our
Varsity/Venture programs by local Councils. Didn't matter...lots of local
Councils never paid it any mind.
>4. What data has been collected on determining why scouts quit or
>leave at a certain point?
Not much lately, Steve. The BSA as a policy sends out "postcards" to SOME
Scouts that leave the program, asking questions such as "Why did you leave
Scouting?", "What percent of your time you spent doing Scouting-related things?"
and "If you had a choice between playing in an organized sports league,
watching television, playing outdoors with friends, doing Scouting
activities, or nothing at all, which would you tend to do most often?" The
cards are generated using
the last registration name and address, so I guess all of the "generic
information" (address, age, rank left, unit/Council number, etc) is
It *used to be* that the BSA, through the local Council, would send out
"Please try us one more time"-type letters to leaving Scouts. I guess that
with the amount of competing things to many Scouts (or the fact that it was
really expensive to do this in some Councils), lots of Councils stopped
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