Re: To Ed Henderson and Michael Ban
Ed Henderson (BigEdBSA@AOL.COM)
Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:29:31 -0500
Come on Ian Ford & get a Grip!!!
YES! I will concede that there is a SMALL group of KIDS with special needs
that need medication to control their behavior. What I maintain is that last
summer I went through several weeks worth of Camp Medical Forms and saw that,
in one week of camp, just under 40% of the kids were on Ratalin, or some
other Paychiatric drug (that I could recognize from the name). This ADD
thing is largely driven by a budding industry of Drug Companies &
Psychiatrists who have sold Parents (and gone to bat with the Social Security
Administration to testify as to the dabilitating sickness of their kids
inexcusable behavior that now qualifies for a monthly government check),
Teachers (and perhaps a few Scoutleaders) that Discipline is out the window
(it is so cruel for the kids to receive an occasional spanking or
restriction) what we need now are expensive endless counseling sessions,
drugs, and understanding that some kids behavior can't be helped and we just
have to realize that with all of these new wonder drugs and new age thinking
about child rearing they will grow out of it into happy well adjusted adults.
BEAM ME UP BADEN POWELL
There are those on this forum who may lear at my "obviously uninformed"
position since I disregard a great percentage of the mytgh of ADD/AHAD.
Thirty years ago I can promise you there was not a scout camp in America
that had upto 40% of their camp population on behavior modification drugs,
and a good bit of the parents back in those days believed in discipline,
spending time with their kids (before the age of so many two parent families,
back when Scouting was at its highest membership totals ever). Am I naieve?
Do I yearn for the simpler days of Leave it to Beaver & Father Knows Best?
Well.....yes I do! Back then a survey of teachers found that the top 10
behavior problems in school was things like *Running in the halls, *Chewing
Gum, *Talking in class, etc. Today, thanks to the ACLU , new age
"enlightened" permissive Parenting techniques. the total banishment of any
kind of meaningful discipline by teachers in the classroom, and the myth of
things like this ADD nonsense, our top 10 problems in schools today are
*Weapons, *Gangs, * Teenage Pregnency, *Violence against teachers, etc.
Excuse me, Ian & Company but you have not convinved me that the solution to
a kids errant behavior is in a bottle of pills.
A scout in my troop who does not live up to the 12 points of the Scout Law (#
5 - A Scout is Curtious, # 7 A Scout is Obedient) does not get a medical
pardon or reprieve because he is doped up on Ritalin or has been diagnosed as
ADD. Yes I DO have kids in my troop who have behavior problems on occasion,
several of them do take Ritalin, which I respect, and insure they take in
privacy from other scouts as directed BUT, both the scout & their parents
understand what the youth leaders and the adult leadership of the troop
expects in terms of conduct at meetings and campouts. Fortunately the
parents in my troop are not afraid to give a spanking or other form of
discipline on occasion (actually removing privledges works better with the
teenage set) and I must say that I have had very few problems in my troop,
which is very active, has a lot of Eagle advancement, and does very well and
continues to grow.
Most of the truly exceptional kids in my troop come from families where
traditional values are the norm. The best example I can think of was the
last Eagle Scout that I awarded this past February, Sean Foster, who was
accepted at both West Point (he chose this school), the Air Force Academy,
and also had the option of a $70,000 ROTC scholarship to any other college.
He held a job at a fitness club, was also Presdient of an Explorer Post,
President of his HS Math Team and several other clubs. His mannerisms were
very curtious (yes sir, thank you, etc.) to any adult he ever met. Even
though our troop is not Mormom sponsored, he was raised in a traditonal
Morman family with discipline, and strong family values (even though both
parents worked, they always had quality time together). If more parents were
like the Foster Family I think we would not have the problems in school. I
see other kids (at church, at camp, etc. who run wild, throw tantrums, and
are incorigably spoiled, who's their parents run around telling everyone who
notices, that their kids are ADD, and it is just a phase, etc. These parents
never discipline their kids, both parent & child always been frazzled &
dysfunctional, and more often than not, the kids seem to grow up with a much
greater share of problems than the one rasied in houses where discipline is
I say chunck the damn pills and return to traditional valves and rasie our
kids to be responsible adults!
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City