Re: Misbehavior and ADD
Michael Ban (jjonston@ROB2.ULTRANET.COM)
Thu, 23 Nov 1995 03:37:52 -0500
>(First putting on Flame Proof Jacket because I know I'll get hit for this
Yeah you are gonna need it for this one my friend. Although I don't
completely disagree with you in someplaces. But in others I believe that a
little more education in the subject is required.
>I have tried very hard to understand the AHAD/ADD phenomena that has
>manifested itself, and become very prominent in the past 10 years or so. I
>understand their is a huge body of research that the drug companies,
>psychologists, scholars, etc will use to back up their claim that ADD exists
>and is even commonplace in our Society HOWEVER.....
>Up until about 30 years ago when a kid behaved poorly in public he ususally
>got a spanking, was placed on restriction, and the errant behavior usually
>went away. The the ACLU gang came in and said we could not do that. Now
Well...30 years ago ADHD did exsist. actually study on the subject exsisted
as early as the late 1800's. By in past times it has been dismissed as
laziness, bad parenting, or just a truely evil child. Go to the library
you'll find lotsa stuff on it.
Commonplace? No it shouldn't be. If it is, somebody is doing something
wrong. Everybody in the world has charactoristics of ADD. We all get a
little hyper sometimes, a little distracted during boreing training
sessions. But does that mean well all have ADD?
I actually got tested. By the REAL test, not just an evaluation. And not
just by some doctor, by an ADHD specialist, that even appeared on
60minutes. The people around you, that live with you are given lotsa forms
to fill out. Does Michael do this, is he like this, does this happen often,
doe she often this about this and that. Questions like that are asked on the
forms. They are given to family members, teachers and other closely related
people who can actually see what "Michael" is really like. The answers are
then tallied up. And if the results fall within a fifth percentile of the
national average then you have ADHD. So actually only one out of every 20
people should have it. Because that is the deffinition of ADHD, the top 5%.
>Don't get me wrong, I never allowed a belt line in my troop, and am resigned
>to the Psychobabble that the establishment serves up. Since my scouts &
>parents know what we expect and won't tollerate, we have had very few
>behavior problems in our troop. I do know this however...... If a kid is a
>continual behavior problem in my troop, and places himself or others in
>danger, and a discussion with the scout or parents does not solve the
>problem.....that kid will no longer be a part of my scout troop, I don't run
>a babysitting clinic for wild kids who have been labeled ADD.
Understandible. Rules are rules and they were set for a reason. Just
because I have ADD does that mean that I can go to the rifle range at camp
and do what every I want with a firearm, because "I'm hyper and I can't
control myself". I don't think it works that way. Although, sometimes you
have to understand that is is difficult to keep control, so a little
understanding will help out a lot.
>Those scouts that can't get the 5th & 7th point of the Scout Law in their
>head can go to a Psyciatrist and be declared ADD, get doped up on Ritalin
>until they walk around comatose, and get a Social Secuirty check for their
>"Behavior Disability." It is sad that parents so often subscribe to that
>line of reasoning.
Gee, were you cold or something? Cuz it just seem like you wanted to warn
up really quick by saying this. Yeah you better put that flame f\proof
jacket on and put it on REAL quick. This is where the understanding comes
in really handy so that you really can see where the scout is coming from.
But, to deffend you side of the arguement, the scout MUST, try to understand
where you are coming from. And if that last statement is an indication of
where you are coming from, then you wouldn't have to kick me out of your
troop. So you could've just lost an Eagle scout, Vigil Honor member of the
OA, and a Section Chief.
>(I don't want to discount that small percentage of kids in the population who
>truly have some form of disability and need special help or behavior
>modification methods or even medication to help them control their behavior.
> I am however absolutely convinced that when I look at a stack of 300 camper
>medical forms at summer camp each week and see that as many as 40% of them in
Like I said earlier it should only be 5%, because 5% is the deffinition. So
there is something wrong, people possible looking for an easy way out. I am
on medication, but it is at my own descression, I carry it with me, and when
I feel that I need more control, I simply go to the bathroom and take a
pill. I usually don't tell anybody I have ADD. I don't want the world to
change for my the world has not obligation too. I feel it is my default and
I should be the one conforming to what society wants. Yet, when I have
incredible difficulty with things, I just want people to understand why,
instead of just calling my lazy or saying "He's just a bad kid, that's all".
>some weeks are on some kind of behavior medication, we have gone way, way
>overboard.) Experts to back me up ------ read the book "Dare to Discipline"
>by Dr. James Dobson. If you have a well ran Boy Troop, proper training, and
>an interesting program you don't have an ADD problem!
Discipline is ok. Understanding is better. Just think about.
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