Re: Cub Scouts -- Definition of "Camping"
James A. Sheckels (JASHECKELS@AOL.COM)
Mon, 6 Nov 1995 23:51:24 -0500
In a 6 Nov post Bruce Harper asks for the definition of camping.
Where is the definitive answer? In virtually every program document
published by the BSA and local councils, too numerous to list them all here.
Suffice it to say that the camping guides ALL discuss camping as an outdoor
Your best source for this answer, as a Cub Scout leader, is the Cub Scout
handbook. In Chapter 5 is a section titled "Outdoor Program Activities" (on
page 53 of my 1994 printing). This is where camping is discussed, leading me
to the conclusion that camping involves overnight sleeping in the outdoors,
which I would say includes certain indoor facilities such as available at
some Scout camps, or cabins along the Appalachian Trail. I guess the
facility support (water, latrine, heating or a/c, availability of rapid
response for help from emergency services, etc) provided defines what is
I can honestly say I have never heard anyone refer to indoor sleeping in a
"civilzed" environment (that is, not a lot of dirt, bugs, trees, fire smoke,
etc) as camping - it is what Bruce calls it - a sleepover.
So I think you meet the leadership requirement of two deep if that is all you
have available for sleeping in a facility which has all (or most all?) of the
creature comforts of home. This seems to be meeting the "letter of the law".
But I think you should consider the "spirit of the law" for the higher level
of adult supervision for Cub Scout camping - the ability of the adults
present to provide a safe environment and adequate supervision and protection
of the Cubs. Don't put their fun at risk nor yourself at possible risk of
liability problems unless you are totally convinced that two adults are
adequate based on the supervision needs of the group when bounced off the
activities you intend to conduct. Factor in the "what ifs" such as if a Cub
or adult is injured or becomes sick, the ability to quickly get additional
adult help if required, the nature of young men to challenge your abilities
and patience, etc.
And remember my favorite unofficial rules of Scouting activities - keep it
safe, moral, ethical, legal and.....
HAVE FUN! :-))
YIS Jim Sheckels I used to be a Bobwhite....
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City