Re: Leadership Corp
Fri, 27 Oct 1995 00:51:41 -0500
At 10:16 AM 10/26/95 EST, you wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get a small supply of the Leadership Corp
> patch (circa mid 70's) The leadership patrol in my troop uses the
> Leadership Corp handbook and would like the patch, told them I would
> see what I could do.
Good luck on getting any more of those...the BSA's Supply Division sent a
memo to all local Councils back in January of 1994 requesting local Councils
sell their remaining stock, returning the existing stock or destroying what they
had of the Leadership Corps patches.
These were the Leadership Corps patches using the circular design with the red
lamp of knowledge, not the four-sided ones used previously to those patches.
Those patches are somewhat harder to come by....mostly you can get them at
tradeorees or Scout Auctions from time to time.
The BSA discontinued the Leadership Corps program offically when they moved to
the Varsity/Venture program. It was thought that the engeries of the Troop
operation, especially in larger Troops with a substantial number of older
Scouts, be better utilized in using the new program options rather than the
older Leadership Corps program, which we as volunteers allowed it to fail.
The main reason we allowed it to fail was because of Scoutmasters'
insistances that the LC be a PATROL. It was NEVER meant to be a patrol,
just a "holding
element" for those older boys in the Troop that have outgrown the "kiddie
stuff" and was looking for different and fresher ways to use their skills
(hence the lamp of knowledge). However, somewhere between the
implementation and the execution of the program all over the nation, many
Scoutmasters took it
to become "the Senior Patrol", whereby the most experienced and senior Scouts
were members of, and that they eventually held all of the Troop's leadership
roles as well to include Patrol Leadership.
The secondary reason we allowed it to fail we can also blame partly on the
National program staff....the lack of suitable "Leadership Corps" experiences.
When you can go to Philmont at 13 or 14, and a National Jamboree at 14, the
15 and 16 year olds which were supposed to be the core age of the LC had
really challenge them. Local Councils responded by hosting and organizing COPE
courses at their summer camps, but after you've done that too a couple of
times, there's simply nothing out there that would challenge most of the
youth in the LCs at that age group. Many of those boys took on new
challenges from their OA Lodge; some went to Exploring to test out their
leadership abilities. Most of them, however, floundered and waited until
they earned Eagle or the last palm and exited our program completely. Some
didn't even wait that long.
Now, we are seeing the same pattern emerge from the implementation of our
Varsity/Venture Crew programs in our units. While there's some growth in
our Varsity Team programs (mostly due to the influnce and work of our LDS
partners), there's not a whole lot going on in most Councils for those
Varsity and Venture Scouts still part of the Troop operation. We still have
Scoutmasters placing their senior boys into "Varsity Patrols", whereby it
becomes a "superpatrol" of
sorts, which again was NOT the purpose of the program. As far as the
Venture program, it crashed no sooner than it started. The promises of
special weeks at Philmont or other national outdoor adventure bases fizzled
quickly due to a
lack of a national partner, and when Coleman Industries bowed out of several
national-level events (for whatever reason), our National staff was at a
loss as to what to do with the new Venture program. Hence, the emphasis on
special Troop outings for them only.
Good luck finding the patches...I'll keep my ears and eyes open for either sets
and I've got your note in my "hold file" so when I do come across a pair or
so, I can send you a note and let you know what they want for them. If
there's anyone out there who's Council ignored the National Supply note and
still have some gathering dust at their Scout Shop (tm), please let me know
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