Cub Scout Sports Program
Barb Stephens (bsteph@CREIGHTON.EDU)
Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:14:07 -0500
Thanks to all who replied to my query regarding a belt loop or pin for a
scout active in Karate.
The compiled results are:
Physical Fitness Loop/Pin - 12
(counting time spent doing
appropriate stretch exercises)
Council "Extra Effort" patch - 1
Nothing available from BSA - 1
Some excerpts from a couple respondents:
The straight answer is that the BSA declares as unauthorized certain
activities, among the karate, boxing, and related martial arts. Other sports
on the list include football and bungee jumping. Pretty much, if direct
high-impact contact or hitting/kicking is reuired, it is unauthorized. For
this reason, no patch/pin/etc is available. The Health and Safety Guide
(#34409) spells this all out, and is also in the Guide to Safe Scouting,
which is printed yearly.
From: Tim Zich at CSC-NSD5 <Tim_Zich_at_CSC-NSD5.NID01.CSC@cscmail.csc.com>
Sports, other then the recognize 21 sports, can be use if two conditions are
1) The sport must be recognized and organized. This means the Scout is
participating in that sport legitimately,ie not throwing each other around at
2) The Scout must have the committees' approval.
After one and two the Scout must follow the same 30/60/90 rule. He has 90 days
to get 60 points. One point for every 30 minutes of playing/practice time.
Maximum of 5 points per day.
When this is complete, the Scout qualifies for the physical fitness pin.
FYI: I have been Nationally trained in Cub Scouts Sports.
MORE From: "James A. Sheckels" <JASHECKELS@AOL.COM>
"The Health and Safety Guide (#34409) Section J is "Hazardous Sports and
Activities" (starts on page 17 in my copy). A portion of section J is titled
"Unauthorized and Restricted Activities" (page 18 in my copy). This says
boxing, karate and related martial arts are unauthorized activities." (I
take this to mean as an encouraged activity to earn recognitions or as part
of an official Scout activity - may not violate the purpose of the Cub
Physical Fitness loop/pin?) There are other activities in this section.
Of note, on page 17, Judo is authorized for Scouts (Boy Scouts) and Explorers
if done with proper mats and thouroughly trained instructors related to YMCA,
colleges and athletic clubs whose objectives and coaching methods are
compatible with BSA principles. (In the past it was explained to me that this
is because judo is a defensive, not offensive, activity - hitting, kicking,
striking are not part of judo, just throws! Ouch anyway.
This is also reiterated in the Safe Guide to Scouting, section IX in my copy.
(Thanks Steve, Warren, John, Bill, Judy, Jim, Tim, Steve, Joseph, Ray,
Jeff, Chuck, Ralph, Bob and anyone else I may have inadvertantly
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