Re: Pack receives threat to have charter pulled (Long)
Paul Mc Gahee (paul_mcgahee@SMTPLINK.HUACHUCA.AMEDD.ARMY.MIL)
Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:28:44 MST
REPLY: The scouting program is ran by boys for boys! If the sister troop
isn't doing their utmost to recruit new boys, then they deserve to loose the
opportunity to register these new scouts into their troop. The new scout
reserves the right to choose the troop where he feels his interests can best be
met. I suggest that the SISTER TROOP plan ways of gaining the new scouts
interests. (Plan a campout inviting the Webelos, or better yet, plan a campout
geared strictly towards requirements that the Webelos need for their rank
advancement. Point being: Show interest in their future and they'll show an
interest in yours!!!)
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Subject: Pack receives threat to have charter pulled (Long)
Author: SCOUTS-L Youth Groups Discussion List <SCOUTS-L@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU> at
Date: 10/6/95 8:57 AM
Yesterday, the Assistant Cubmaster for my younger son's pack, told me
that the Cubmaster was contacted by the former Scoutmaster of the
pack's sister troop on behalf of the chartering organization (CO).
This former Scoutmaster (also a member of the CO ?) stated that if the
Pack didn't start supporting the troop, the chartered organization
would 'pull' the packs charter.
I talked to our District Scout Executive (DE) and was told that this
person was the Scoutmaster for the past 20 years, hold a lot of
property within the small rural town and apparently has some local
political power (In the DE's words, he owned the town). I was told by
the DE not to worry because he knew the COR and that the other members
of the CO would not let this happen.
I was also told that the troop in question doesn't have any program and
that during the previous Scoutmaster's tenure, the district office had
accumulated a file of approximately 3" thick from containing letters of
complaint or concern from parents.
My opinion was that we should tell this person that we would continue
to support the sister troop exactly as in the past: Expose the Webelos
scouts to any/all scout troops in the area and let the boys make their
own decision. The DE agreed with my opinion.
My concern is what is best for the boys. The pack currently has about
Comments? Suggestion? Please reply by private Email. I'll summarize
back to list if others are interested.
Last year, my older son transitioned from Webelos to Boy Scouts. Where
we live, there are 2 troops, one being the sister troop. To earn the
Arrow of Light, we had the Webelos Den visit meetings for both troops.
The Webelos Den Leader had a very hard time trying to contact the
membership of either troop and had to really work hard to set up an
outing. The sister troop simply didn't have any plans between that
time (February) and our planned cross over date (May).
The evening we visited sister troop, we all sat watching BSA prepared
video tapes of the last 2 National Jamborees and other video tapes of
what the troop had done in the past. We also learned that the troop
was down to 5 boys, all of them at least a sophomore in high-school,
and 2 of them being very close to Eagle. The troop hadn't received any
new scouts graduating from Webelos for the last 2 years. One boy from
the troop showed up at this meeting (If you can call this a meeting!).
When we visited the other troop, the scouts were split up to become part
of the existing patrols for the evening and were welcomed by the other
scouts as if they had been there all along while one of the Assistant
Scoutmaster's explained to the parents the difference between the Cub
Scout and Boy Scout programs. At the end of the meeting all of the boys
stated that they had fun and were going to join this troop.
When the Cubmaster heard about this, he contacted the Webelos Den
leader and told him that the boys HAD to join the sister troop. The
Den leader stuck to his guns and stated that the boys could not be
forced to join one troop over another and that it was the boys decision
to make. (Which is what they did.)
If the sister troop really wants our Webelos Scouts, it is time for the
troop leadership to put together a program and actively recruit them by
making the initial contacts, inviting them on outings, and showing them
how FUN scouting can be.
As the new Scoutmaster of the other troop, (the one my older son
joined), this is what I have been doing.
Dean Hayes New Scoutmaster of the "other" troop in the valley
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City