Re: National's Computing Status -reply
John Oakes (joakes@UNM.EDU)
Thu, 28 Sep 1995 15:17:00 -0600
On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Todd Norman Tingblad wrote:
> Pat Meehan and others:
> here...one size fits all. Right......
> b) Why HP and not some other machines?
> National is running a "Turnkey" system for Councils. National will supply
> and support all parts of your computing needs (as long as it is on their
> box). Limiting it to one vendor's box lowers the cost of support greatly.
> To support this, National has included the code in their software that will
> only allow it to run on Texas Instrument (TI) Business Systems Unix or
> HP-9000 Unix. HP bought TI's Unix line two years ago, so National had to
> change to something else as the TI boxes were discontinued. HP was the
> logical choice. Back when the first Unix system were coming out from
> National, some councils with help from some IT (Information Techology)
> professionals, purchased PC clones that ran Unix. There were a lot of
> problems getting software run and the datacomm back to National's mainframe.
> So National said, "We will only support this stuff on this machine and only
> this machine." From a management standpoint to control costs, this makes
One question plagues me on this...Why did National pick the MOST
expensive "platform" there is. Why for instance did they not go with the
originators of UNIX...Digital for instance, I showed this message to our
Digital boys here and they broke up laughing....Seems whomever sold our
boys the HP platforms have let themselves in for a rude suprise somewhere
down the track. The argument does not fly, there will be MAJOR costs
involved in the future given the "different flavor" of UNIX that HP uses
and the industry standard. Any Beginning UNIX jock knows this. Who pray
tell is running the MIS for national anyhow????
> c) What is the OS they are running?
> It's Unix. On the TI machine, it is a very old System V 1.3 (or is that TI's
> version?). On the HP machine, it is HP's current System V Unix that is a bit
> different from most vendor's Unix (includes some special stuff that is HP
> only things). At the time this system was designed (1982) (there was an even
> earlier design in the late 70's),
This is definitely an understatement!!!!
Thanks Todd for your time and effort in putting this together
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City