Re: BSA: Bobcat Badge Ceremonies Needed
Stephen Hoar (hoar@AGDIS01.NEWARK.AF.MIL)
Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:44:34 -0400
In your message of 25 Sep 1995 at 0828 EDT, you write:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 1995, Don Tolin wrote:
> > At 06:35 AM 9/23/95 -0500, Steve wrote regarding Bobcat ceremony:
> > >Hold the boy upside down while his parent pins the badge on him. :)
> > I understand that this old ritual runs afoul of the YPP and rules against
> > hazing. It was common in our pack before the new rules, but we do not do it
> > anymore.
> > YiS/don
> > Don Tolin, Casper, Wyoming, USA,
> > ASM[Trained] Troop 60, Boy Scout Roundtable Commissioner[Trained],
> > CR[Trained] and MC[Trained] Cub Scout Pack 30, Riverbend District,
> > Central Wyoming Council, BSA, "I used to be a beaver..." W5-638-95
> > E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org WWW URL: http://w3.trib.com/~dont/
> Hazing? Don, could you be more explicit on providing an exact reference with
> regard to the above. This seems mighty trivial to be classified as hazing.
> There are a lot of packs conducting this activity as well. When were
> these new rules invoked? I'd like to bring this up at our next roundtable.
> Steve Horvath
> Asst. WDL
> NW Suburban Council- Chicago
Some would say that calling a scout out in front of his peers and have
him perform an act that he is uncomfortable doing might be called
hazing. This could be thought of as hazing if he has never done it
before and would call attention to himself or cause embarassment.
We could get carried to extremes in defining hazing. If a scout is
shy and doesn't like to go in front of groups is it hazing to call him
forward to present an award. If a troop job that he has or a rank
requiremnt requires him to explain or demonstrate an act to a group of
his peers or others,is it hazing to have him do it when his shyness or
apprehensions cause him not to want to do it?
This lunacy over fear of hazing could lead to us all sitting around in
a quiet room doing nothing. All growth and progress in life calls for
stretching ourselves and trying the unknown. To avoid any sort of
discomfort out of fear of it being labeled hazing would doom all of us
to remain in the crib never venturing from our mothers breast.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City