Re: Campout ended on bad note
Ted Burton (tedburtn@CRIS.COM)
Wed, 20 Sep 1995 06:14:02 -0600
First, "Scoutmaster wife" -- there's a position for which there should be a
position badge! complete with year pins!
Second; the situation, with lots of snips:
>We just returned from our troops campout.
It is not the first time it has happened and seems to occur more often. [snip]
Horse playing started and of course got out of hand. This one boy started
to jump the others from behind. [snip]
I guess one boy had all he could take so held this boy down. He them became
very mad. Next he came back to camp and sat in his mothers truck. She
went to check on him and he has this grand story
to tell her. [snip]
She is also a leader and our CC. She started to yell at the boys then she
rounded all the boys up and marched them to the campfire and again yelled
at them in language not acceptable to the
>scouting program. [snip]
Her son is 15 has his Eagle but is very immature. He is also good at
getting this one group of boys in trouble. She sees only his side and
takes his side all the time. [snip]
You have had lots of advice so far, all of it good. Allow me to share the
downside of doing nothing. I have experienced this same situation with a
mom who was on the Committee, an immature son who is far better at starting
trouble than he is at dealing with it. At one campout, the Troop's best so
far, he once again got into trouble and went into a super sulk.
At the next Troop Committee meeting momma, who was the Chairperson, rammed
through a total control of campouts rule. There were to be no more outings
without a minute by minute program laid down by the committee... on a
theory that a busy troop will be too busy to pick on her innocent son.
No matter that from every other perspective the campout was a great
success. The boys had incredibly good fun (other than the
hazing/retribution events). They had run a compass course that separated
the knew its from the know it alls, and those who missed the beaver dam
(hee, hee, hee) had actually sought out the knowledge when they arrived
back in camp somewhat damper than those who correctly adjusted for
declination and thus crossed the dam with dry feet. Meals had been
well-cooked and timely. Camp had been put up in record time and was taken
down in record time. The Patrols had worked together well. There had been a
problem, with a bad consequence that called for a surgical response. She
got out the meat axe.
The membership in the Troop fell off sharply after a few weeks of this.
She was intruding in meetings and running them like an old-fashioned
classroom on a 'shut up and listen to me' basis. She pushed the SPL aside
with scathing remarks about his lack of control over the campout. I was
rebuked for having been a passive participant in the campout. She put the
Troop Committee into a corner with an in your face approach that dared
anyone to disagree.
In the end, her son lost interest once his time at the troop was as tightly
ruled as his time at home; she resigned from the committee of this troop
that was not good enough for her son. Woodbadge set back in, membership
rose, and all is well again. I am just sorry for the boys who lost out
while she was dictating things, and did not come back.
Reminds me of the story about the little dog that a family took on a hike,
which dog found a bear, riled it up, and then came running to the family
for help with the bear in hot pursuit...
The moral of the story is, dig in your heels, do it with diplomacy as much
as possible, but do not let her repeat this event if anything on earth can
stop it. If worse comes to worse, possibly a group of adults can as a group
confront her about her son. It would be good for her son to interact with
the troop without her help, and learn to quite goading the bear.
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