Re: Hazing #2
Wed, 13 Sep 1995 17:39:28 PDT
>Hazing is wrong. This I think everyone agrees. The problem with
>this thread of discussion is what is hazing.
Your post has a few examples where I think you got the division line
between hazing and not-hazing about right.
But here I question the wisdom
>We were blind-folded...
>We were led to the sacred fire, our blind-fold removed, we saw the
>branding ... that glowed white hot.
>The blind-fold was put back on ... we knew what was to come. NOT!!!!
>An ice cube was applied instead of the iron and someone whispered in
>our ear "scream real loud".
You believe this was not hazing. You may be right, I'm not quite sure.
Lets assume the whispering happened early and the victim got the idea that
it is a show and lost his fear. In such a case it might not have been hazing.
BUT, I still disagree with the outcome. That one scout wasn't hazed, but
all the other scouts who didn't hear the whispering were participating
in an event which looked to them exactly like hazing. They went away
with the impression that hazing was ok. They learned the wrong lesson.
If they copy later what happened, they might omit the reassuring whispering
and their event will be real hazing.
What is acceptable and what not has changed since I was a scout.
In this case I have no doubts that the new ways are better. I have been
both victim of hazing and participant, without knowing that this was
hazing (thinking it was the way its supposed to be). Neither is a happy
I do not like it when other posts belittle responsibility with labels like
"political correctness". This is real; this is not about politics.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City