J. Hugh Sullivan (sullijh@NDLC.OCC.UKY.EDU)
Wed, 13 Sep 1995 07:39:53 -0500
Between Scouts, Fraternities, Crossing the Date Line, Lodge, etc. I
suspect I have been hazed as much and as hard as anyone. Some of the details
should not even be mentioned in mixed company. I'm sorry that I never
crossed the equator - that's hazing.
By being two generations ahead of the youngest on this group and one
generation ahead of many others, I was not aware that I was undergoing
hazing or that it was a problem (isn't ignorance great?). All along, I have
thought singing a song was payment for my carelessness and initiations
were part of being accepted by the group. Successfully completeing the
hazing/initiation did nothing but increase my already high self-esteem.
My life has been blessed at every turn and I can't remember any failures
- just successes (convenient memory). So, my question is, do I have to turn
this wonderful life around because, at this late date, it has been
determined by the younger people on this group that I was abused when
hazed/initiated? Say "yes" - don't leave this rabbit in the brier patch.
Is it merely coincidental that many of our current ills expanded
exponentially about the same time as relaxed discipline and explaining cause
rather than penalizing wrongful acts. Now, even draft dodgers can hold
Of course there is a limit! There should be no chance for physical harm and
allowance must be made for the very few who are not yet emotionally
mature enough to stand the stress of even minor indignities. But, in my
opinion, saying "you did wrong" doesn't make the point. That is like
saying "slap the child next to mine when mine misbehaves - he'll get the
I am tempted to say that they don't make them as good as they used to -
but I won't!
I guess there can be two types of responses: (a) intelligent counter
points and (b) flames. Ordinarilly I would not mention flames since many
here would think flaming is a form of abuse and avoid it. But, here's
your chance - flame away, if that is your sole purpose in life, while
you have a target that can handle it!
Eagle, Class of '43
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City