Re: Forgotten items (was Re: Woodbadge Tickets)
David Scammell (David_Scammell.Orlando_spg@XEROX.COM)
Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:58:04 PDT
I am a little torn on this issue of whether singing to retrieve lost articles
is actually considered hazing or not. I can see both sides of this issue ...
I grew up in Scouts and I remember doing different songs, stunts and skits.
Although some were very embarrassing, they helped bring me out of my shell and
taught me very valuable interaction skills. It also helped me with my public
speaking skills as well. Without these skills, I wouldn't be where I am today,
in Scouting, socially and at work.
Thinking further, you can consider many of the skits we perform at campfires as
hazing. For example, any skit where you play a 'prank' on someone ... you
could call it hazing. How about camp assignments ... can a Scout say his
Patrol Leader was hazing him for giving him garbage detail? This is truly one
of those point-counterpoint discussions that could go on for a very lengthy
period of time.
I agree with Terry Slade to the point of: (a) at what point is it considered
hazing and (b) at what point are we removing the fun aspects for the kids,
thereby losing them????
This question, IMHO, should be answered by the Scoutmaster. The SM knows his
troop better than anyone else and should know where to draw the line. I have
seen where troops are sensitive (even the Scouts themselves) to personalities
and they learn to work with them (a very valuable social skill).
Again, IMHO, I believe one of the main goals of Scouting is to prepare a Scout
for Life ... they should be able to survive (and interact) in the city, as well
as the wilderness.
David L. Scammell
ASM Troop 227 - Orlando, FL
Eagle Scout - OA Brotherhood
West Orange District - Central Florida Council
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City