Re: Girls in BSA
Lynne Fitzsimmons (lynnef@MDHOST.CSE.TEK.COM)
Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:44:47 PDT
Just to attach some FACT to Steven's comments.....
First off, it is GSUSA, not (nor ever) GSA.
Expense of Girl Scout camping program. This seems to be a regional
issue. My daughter went to resident camp for 13 days - cost was
$200, $40 of which Rebecca paid for with cookie currency (scrip for
selling large numbers of cookies). She said there were some girls
from California at the camp, because it was cheaper to fly up and go
to camp here(!). Facility-wise, Girl Scout camps are a little more
developed than Boy Scout camps.
>Uniform expense is another issue. The girls mothers are bother that
>the structure of GSA seems to drive a uniform change every year. (And
>we think the boys uniforms are expensive!)
I think uniform expense is about even (note that I have a Girl Scout and
a Webelos Scout in my house). Girls do need a new uniform when they change
program levels, but that is every 3 years. The Cadette/Senior uniform
differs only in the bandanna and t-shirt. (Cadettes and Seniors are typically
7th-12th grade). Daisy Girl Scouts is a one year program - the uniform cost
is equivalent to the Tiger Cub t-shirt.
>Fund raisers are another really sore point to the local girls. They
>wonder why the BSA is able to have money raisers (i.e. Popcorn) and
>able to keep so much of the profit while theirs is so much less on
>cookies. (and they dare not sell the cookies...severe penalties for
>failure to participate).
Cookie profits to the troop vary by Council. We get to keep 50 cents
a box. Please note that the remaining cookie money is used for facilities
upkeep, leader training, subsidizing Council-wide activities and running
the Council. Indirectly, the girls benefit. It cost our Council over $100
per year per girl to deliver program. No girl is REQUIRED to participate
in the cookie sale. They may contribute to troop program in other, non
financial ways, such as recordkeeping or other such activities. There
were several girls in my troop last year who did not sell cookies. Now
then, if the TROOP as a whole declines to participate, we may not do any
additional fundraising (all money-earning activities must be approved by
(Now my 2 cents) Girl Scouting is an excellent program for girls. However,
for them to have a good program, they have to get off their rear ends
and MAKE it a good program. I've got a real whiner in my troop - "Girl
Scouts never do anything fun. My brother gets to do all this stuff"
Hey, we DID all that stuff this year (and more). She was too busy whining
to show up at the meetings when we were planning and then doing. She
was too busy whining to look at the camp brochure to see that she could
be out there canoeing and doing rope courses. We'll see what she does
this year.... (if I don't strangle her first :-) )
On the other hand, we also had a girl in our troop (for years!) who was
just sort of there, never went camping, had sporadic attendance.... This
year she found out she was old enough to take Program Aide training and
work at the Day Camp. Talk about fire lit under a child! I never got
so many phone calls asking about this and that and who to call and.....
Lynne Fitzsimmons email@example.com
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