Re: Mic-O-Say and OA
Rodger Morris (rodger@FISHNET.NET)
Fri, 25 Aug 1995 11:12:59 GMT
Jim Sleezer said:
> Mic-O-Say and Order of the Arrow are similar but also very different. Each
>is an honor camper program and each uses an American Indian theme. They were
>started around the same time in different locations. There were a number of
>other honor camper programs started as well but most have gone by the wayside.
The Long Beach Area Council has the tribe of Tahquitz, which is akin to
both the tribe of Mic-O-Say and the Order of the Arrow (OA). The Ventura
County Council had the Tribe of Matilija until they voted to adopt the OA
program in the 1940s (?). San Gabriel Valley Council adopted the OA
program, but retained the Tribe of Torqua as a summer camp honor camper
program at their Camp Cherry Valley on Catalina Island.
The Tribe of Torqua has four levels for boys and one for adults. They are:
3) Medicine Man
Adults receive the "Tribesman" award as recognition for making the effort
to bring the Scouts out to camp for a week. The others may be earned by
Scouts and camp staff only. I hold all five levels in the tribe of Torqua,
by virtue of having served on staff there in 1974.
I believe that a Scout council in central California did the same thing
with "The Tribe of the High Sierra"; e.g., adopted the OA program, but
retained the previous program as a summer camp honor program. Those are
all the examples I have heard about, but there are likely to be other
examples elsewhere within the BSA.
Hopefully this will provide a bit of wider perspective on the Tribe of
Mic-O-Say/Order of the Arrow thread.
Yours in Scouting,
Rodger Morris <email@example.com>
Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 852, Camarillo, CA
Ventura County Council, Boy Scouts of America
National Woodbadge 416-18, Philmont, 1973
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