Re: Smoking Scouters
Scott Morley (Scott_Morley@HCHP.ORG)
Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:49:50 -0400
Unfortunately, I find your attitude about smoking unScout-like. I agree that
adult leaders should not smoke in front of scouts. I think maybe your act
should be cleaned up a little and try to be more courteous or kind; cheerful
would be nice.. or "help other people at all times".. Do any of these phases
ring a bell???
You're going to associate smoking with physical abuse and pornography???!!!!
Absurd. You've lost touch with reality and the real world. Just in case you
didn't know 2 of the 3 offenses listed in this paragraph will end you up in
jail. HINT: The one that won't begins with the letter "s".
I better stop now before I really get on a tangent. I didn't think such
negative people were in Scouting, but like life I always can find something that
will surprise me.
ASM, Troop 67
P.S. I'm a non-smoker.
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Subject: Smoking Scouters
Author: Stephen Hoar <hoar@AGDIS01.NEWARK.AF.MIL> at link_smtp
Date: 8/10/95 9:30 AM
Folks have posted a lot of mail on how they or their troops did at summer
camp. In light of recent discussions about accomplishments and requirements I
think it is about time I did the same but in a different vein. The guys did
well! They set out and accomplished many things and I am really proud of them.
I cannot say the same about the camp adult staff, the adult leaders, and some
of the scout staff.
Why? SMOKING! It is bad enough to have parents smoke in the camp but when the
camp director is a not so hidden smoker it is an aggravation. It was a source
of frustration to have smoking scoutmasters and adult staff at our daily
leaders meeting. One of my assistant scoutmasters really went around the bend
when his son, on staff the whole summer, came home a smoker. Is the BSA
policy about not smoking on BSA events a reality or a myth?
What really cracks me up is that some of the folks who are such sticklers on
following the absolute letter of the law on advancement and MB requirements
are also smokers. They have given themselves a waiver on this subject.
If I had seen this problem at only one camp or one council then I would write
it off as a local problem. But, I've spent a career traveling and been in
many councils and seen enough to know it is a national problem. Look around,
I would suspect that there are probably some offenders in this audience. I'm
not a smoker but after a hard day with the troop a beer would sure be nice.
It seems that If I am somehow able to forego the beer, the smokers should be
able to hold off on the smoke.
Am I angry, you bet I am. Somehow I'm supposed to lead/teach the boys the
real meaning of scouting. Try doing this while other adults, in leaders
uniforms, set such a lousy example. The prime method of teaching leadership
is by example and smokers are screwing it up. I'm getting tired about doing it
the nice way because It hasn't been working. You guys who are smokers have
got to clean up your act!
If you are a smoker who is able to abide and follow the policy about not
smoking at certain times, good for you. But, how about carrying it a step
further and ask you smoking buddies to do the same. I've managed to clean up
our troop, now you do the same. Yes, I lost a couple of adults, but I also
got rid of a couple of bad examples.
I would really be amused, as would many others, if smokers replied to this
letter with some rationalizations as to why it is acceptable to smoke around
scouts. This is a subject in which I see no leeway. If you desire to indulge
in unacceptable behavior such as smoking, drinking, using illegal substances,
pornography, physical abuse, or other such negative behavior, then perhaps you
don't belong in scouting.
Smokers! I (WE) don't need you! If you left tomorrow the world would still
spin. I would suggest that you have a choice to make and your choice should be
for the boys. If you are too selfish to make this good choice then GOOD-BYE!
Old enough to know better,
Too old to do any better.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City