Re: When is a new pack/troop needed?
Charlotte S. Jerscheid (cjersche@CAPACCESS.ORG)
Mon, 7 Aug 1995 20:30:11 -0400
Pierre Berube, if your intent was to raise my dander, you have succeeded.
I will try to remain calm and civil, and will try to remember that I have
a sense of humor.
I should feel insulted that you announce on this public list that new
troops will automatically fail because they have untrained leaders, no
equipment and no money, and do not go camping. I helped start a Cub
Scout Pack back in 1989 and, with the same adults & boys, have now joined
a new Boy Scout Troop. First, the "untrained leaders" issue: the man
and woman who proposed the new Cub Pack back in '89 were experienced
leaders. The Troop I just left was also a new troop, but had an
experienced Scoutmaster. In 1989, I was a raw recruit, but by the second
Pack meeting, I had been to two Roundtables and through the Cub Leader
Basic Training course. If the leaders/parents are interested in a
quality program for their boys, they will =get= trained. Exit the
untrained leader problem.
As for equipment, we were fortunate in that our Chartered Organization
had sponsored a Pack and Troop before, so we had flags, some uniforms
donated by the former Scouts and leaders, a little cooking equipment and
one (count'em) ONE Baker tent. The boys & their parents bought their own
personal equipment, eventually including tents (at first, we were
borrowing tents from friends). I think I'm the only one who bought a
brand new tent...everybody else got theirs secondhand. Five years later,
I'm still using the same equipment (OK, so my daypack gave out at summer
camp...I bought another one at K-mart for $12 on sale). I don't believe
money was a problem...we charged dues to pay for badges, and our
Chartered Organization supported us with $100 each year for our Blue & Gold.
As for camping, we made extensive use of the State Parks system in
Maryland, where youth groups can get an annual pass for about $5 total.
The pass allows the group to camp at State parks for free. The only
other expense was food ($10 for meals from Friday dinner through Sunday
lunch), and you'd have to buy food to eat at home anyway. When we
transferred over to start the Troop in Sept. 1994, we left a very active,
So, Pierre, a new unit *can* be successful. Just look around
you. Everybody's unit was new at one time or another.
MC, Troop 24, BSA
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City