Re: Easier Eagles
Jay M. Thal (Jay_M._Thal@HUD.GOV)
Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:22:01 EST
Carey Probst wrote:
Overall I do not think that the Eagle Rank has gotten easier since I
was a scout in the 60's, except for one thing.
Now it is possible to earn Eagle without Swimming and Lifesaving MBs,
which was not possible back then.
For those like me who never made it because we are Aquatically
Challenged (ie. swim like a rock), the new rules allowing for
Emergency Prep. and either Personal Fitness or Sports would have made
a huge difference.
I'm not sure that these changes make Eagle any easier, as the
substitute badges still require a lot of work. It just makes it
fairer for scouts who do not have access to a swimming area to
practice for the MBs.
I think this raises an important issue of fairness and
allowing "roads less travelled" on the way to Eagle.
I feel compelled to raise it now because of timeliness,
though I was hoping to defer to post-vacation (Aug. 12-23)
so I could benefit without having 1,000 messages to wade
I'd like to see an active thread on Scouting Unlimited, or
whatever BSA is now calling its program for Scouts with
disabling conditions. The earlier lead of providing
alternate or substitute MBs that would allow a Scout to "do
his best" is most appealing -- for ALL.
"Required and Alternate Eagle Scout Award Merit Badges for
Advancement of Physically and Mentally Handicapped Scouts"
Form No. 58-730 provided guidance and comparability which is
There were no alternates for the Citizenship badges and
First Aid (and I presume Family Life, now). But:
Camping Cooking, Hiking, Cycling, Rowing
Communications Electronics, Journalism, Graphic Arts,
Photography, Radio, Public Speaking,
Emer. Prep./ Firemanship, Motorboating, Public Health,
Lifesaving Signaling, Radio, Rowing, Traffic Safety
Pers. Fit./ Archery, Canoeing, Cycling, Golf, Hiking,
Swimming/ Horsemanship, Orienteering, Pioneering,
Sports Rowing, Skating, Skiing, Water Skiing
Envir. Sci. Geology, Nature, Weather, Fish & Wildlife
Management, Soil & Water Conservation
Pers. Mgmt. Agribusiness, Consumer Buying
Safety Firemanship, Public Health, Traffic Safety
Several of these are on the 9/1 endangered MBs list:
Consumer Buying, and Agribusiness(?).
Most would concede the the Alternates are not less
demanding, but differently demanding - and logically/
I do not think that (other than for embrassing tradition for
tradition's sake) they diminish a Scout's achievements if
BSA applied them as alternates for all Scouts.
Jay M. Thal, ASM, T-666
Banneker Dict., NCAC
I used to be a Buffalo
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City