Scott Drown (scottdd@HALCYON.COM)
Wed, 26 Jul 1995 05:54:04 -0800
Discipline - How should it be handled?
I would prefer it be handled by the Scouts - but feel that it as dual
effort of both Scouters and Scouts. I have generally asked the question
when confronted with a problem, be it refusing to do work details or even
fighting with a question to the SPL as to what he has done.
After that I might get involved depending on the SPL's request. If
Scouters step in to quickly then it does not help the Scouts learn
In the past I have also been a supporter of using the rewards within
Scouting to work as I think they were somewhat intended to do. Our present
Scoutmasters son was a bit of a problem io being unruly and even fighting
at times. He was spoken to by the SPL, his Dad and then by me. I told him
that he had to pass Boards of Review to make adavncement and that required
a showing of Scout spirit and an adherence to the Scout Oath and Law. He
also wanted to be elected to a leadership position but had traouble getting
elected - I pointed out why this might be.
He improved enough to make rank and eventually was elected to a minor
leadership role but could not get elected to what he really wanted - Senior
Patrol Leader by the Scouts nor to Order of the Arrow because his father
allowed the Troop Committee to use the Scoutmaster veto on his eligibility.
I took the time to explain why this might be when each occured.
A bit of disappointment has worked wonders for this Scout who is now our
SPL and an OA Member.
Different Scouts require different plans. We had another Scout whose Board
of Review for Second Class, which in our Troop consists of Stars and above,
refused to pass him due to his lack of cooperation, scout spirit, and not
following the Oath and Law. They asked me for advice and I suggested that
they come up with another alternative but if they really wanted to they
could fail him but they should explain to him why.
They went back into a huddle, called the Scout back and ended up asking him
to produce a contract of behavior he would improve with the stipulation
that if did not change he would not make First Class. He wrote the
contract and has improved greatly until recently, making Star rank.
However at summer camp he was a REAL problem and the troop would not elect
him to Order of the Arrow. He will not listen to the SPL and most of the
Scouters as well. It appears that he will not be allowed to go on the 50
mile Trip because of his behavior - fighting with younger boys, verbally
abusing them and hitting them, not listening to Scouters or the SPL who had
to physically stop him.
I see the decision not to take him on the 50 miler as an intelligent one,
reducing liability for the Scouters going. 25 miles out in the middle of
no where is not a place to have a Scout refuse to listen in what might be a
I get to talk to him this Saturday and facilitate a mtg with the older
Scouts on the trip. I have his contract. Wish me luck!
Troop 39 Maltby, Wa
Mt. Baker Council
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