Re: Females at camp
Onno Kuijken (okuijken@SCE.PHILIPS.NL)
Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:34:26 METDST
Karen Blackbyrne <KBLACK@INPRINT.TEAM400.IE> wrote:
> Is there a 6 hour time difference between America and Ireland or
> is it 60 years???
And some other countries I can think of ...
> The rules regarding Male and Female leaders here is that there must
> be separate sleeping areas for leaders - neither Male or Female leaders
> can sleep with the cubs, and male and female leaders cannot stay
What does "here" mean - USA or Ireland ?
I know of no such rules in The Netherlands. At Cub Scouts age (7 to 10yr 6 mo),
at least in my group, boys and girls usually share the same sleeping quarters.
No one has ever complained about that (to me, at least), there is only the
constant nagging when camps start about who is sleeping next to whom. Many
accomodations do not even provide separated sleeping quarters. In fact, in some
cases we have had difficulty separating staff sleeping quarters from children's.
More worrying to the staff (lack of privacy, early wake-up, sometimes being
woken up in the middle of the night because a child can't sleep) than to the
children or their parents. At nighttime, at least one of the staff is always
within hearing range of the children. Staff usually sleeps together in our
group, except from heavy snorers or kitchen staff who usually rise earlier.
The older age group (can't call them Boy Scouts if they are a coed Troop) as a
rule does have separated sleeping quarters for boys and girls. Although I
remember having a girl coming along on an overnight hike who did not object
to sleeping in the same tent, and neither did her parents. It was rather me
wondering if she/they would like the idea.
Once Scouts gets older, the separation of males from females (sleepingwise)
tends to diminish.
> I can assure you that the parents would be very shocked if
> only the males stayed overnight.
Don't know 'bout that, never tried. I guess some wouldn't mind and some wouldn't
like the idea, I doubt it if any would be very shocked.
> Do the committee people not accept that leaders are responsible people
> and would always look after the childrens moral beliefs.
^^^^^^ How can you know this for sure? Better not to run too many
> I hope I have not offended anyone but do not believe that the committee
> is right about this rule.
One has to keep in mind what is acceptable / accepted in a given society. I for
one think such a rule shouldn't be necessary, and I certainly like it better
"our" way - more relaxed.
> Yours in scouting
Onno Kuijken email: email@example.com
Cub Scout Leader, De Vlammende Vonk, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City